When did Holyfield start juicing?

**** you..! i'm your prom date you ugly sack of ****

 

Calzaghe
Tszyu
Trinidad
Monzon
Gomez
Lennox Lewis

there's six.

 

That interview with Qawi is quite good, and I agree with Qawi.

 

LL? I don't think so..

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/199/lennoxlewis4.jpg

anyway;
What you think of Haye and Bruno? Obvious users.
"Careers tainted"?

 

i guess your ****** hero Haye went from 195 to 215 and was steroid free then you ***** hypocrite

 

Probably when he started training with Tim Hallmark & hanging round with bodybuilders before the first Qawi fight.

 

When did he stop?:think

 

yeah for the Tyson fight Holyfield looked unreal, I don't like accusing guys too much because you never know, thing with Holy was it was so DRAMTIC,,Holy against Czyz compared to Holy against Tyson was TWO different fighters,,,,

always thought Holy was awesome, however, I have never seen a TRANSFORMATION like Holy going from Cruiser to Heavy, he hit so much harder at heavyweight and was so much stronger, just very suspect, well very unusual,

not that I know what was what, however, I think there is a fair chance that Tyson didn't juice because he had a real natural build from the time he was a teenager,,, so this is stupid but if Holy was on Roids for his fight with Tyson witch is possible and if Tyson wasn't ever on Roids, can you IMAGINE how good Tyson could of been if he was on the Roids that Holy could of been on? lmao,,,, maybe its the first fighter ever to kill a dude in the ring and its scored a KOD, knocked out dead,,,or Foreman on roids against Tyson on roids,,,,or Tua on Roids would be good, plus some of that crap to boost your oxygen/stamina so he can keep throwing lots of power bombs

that's kinda funny actually, the public just demands to see the best ROIDED fighters and forget about making it a bad thing, we go the opposite way, lol,,,we pressure the fighters to roid up and go to battle,,,,Christ, we should get Tyson sperm and the William sisters eggs and go to town seeing what we could get, plus we could make them fight each other by simply not ever telling them they were brothers,,,,plus we could then use the girls as hookers to make extra cash on the side ? Was that over the line right there ? That just totally came out of no-where, please don't get upset at me, I think the Williams sisters are hot, it wasn't a insult I swear, its just a fact that a ratio of their female offspring with Tyson could potentially bring in a fair penny if used for high class hooking,,,how is that offensive when I could fetch ZERO high class or low class hooking ??? Whats offensive is why I couldn't at least bring in some income hooking regardless of the class. Plus not all the females would be hot enough for hooking so if they weren't at least producing BEASTs of off spring their horsefood,,,,

by the way , in case there is any douche that assumes I am being racist, understand that I think the exact same thing should be done with people like Tommy Morrison and Steffi Graf and others, I actually believe it would be unethical to do it just to Tyson and the Williams sisters and if you disagree then you and I have a problem,,,,plus that may not make the strongest quickest mix so why put rules of such limits upon it ?

and as if Holyfield did not do Roids, did you see him ?? then again can you imagine if he wasn't ever on Roids and he did that to Tyson natural ???

Can you imagine if that were true what Holy could of been like if he had done the drugs that Ben Johnson took to win the Gold in 88 ???

 

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When did you realize your uncle was your dad?

 

After Mims before Qawi because Duva thought Holyfield couldn't go 15rounds

 

? All fighters who juice should be held to the same standard, regardless of their objectives.

As to the topic, as said, probably fairly early on in his career.

 

One thing that has always puzzled me is that the fighters who juice get vilified for it, their trainers, coaches, managers etc get a free pass.

You don't spend hundreds of hours with fighter in the gym and not notice his almost superhuman condition. They would know.
So if a guy like Holy was on gear, what does that say about guys like Benton and Duva?

Were they actively involved, or did they turn a blind eye? Either way, that would make them just as guilty. And that goes for all these guys...if the fighter is doing something, their handlers would know.

 

When he moved up to HW from CW

 

Average genetics. The first Qawi fight puts Evander's career in to perspective.

Typical religious bull**** merchant.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1066846/1/index.htm

"Duva and Benton, for all their old-school credentials, have been remarkably open to innovation in the training of Holyfield. More than five years ago they brought in Tim Hallmark, a Houston-based fitness consultant, who with high-tech weight training and diet has built Holyfield from a 182-pound cruiserweight into a full-fledged, awesomely muscled heavyweight. Hallmark has also dramatically increased Holyfield's endurance." so Roids for mass and HGH for endurance