When Rocky Marciano...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by FrankieCas, Aug 11, 2007.


  1. KTFO

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    Mid and in are not exactly the same because your outside-range contains the jab as your primary weapon.
     
  2. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Now, I don't mean this as an insult, but I've seen you do plenty worse than "Ummming" someone.

    So you're more or less saying that Turpin looked prettier doing the job than Marciano did. That may well be true, but Marciano did him in faster and more dominantly, so ultimately, even if he looked less economical or efficient in the process, his was, well, effectively at least as "effective" and "definitive". This is all a lot of hair-splitting, of course. Marciano put on a sloppy performance against Cockell, his form was unusually poor, and one would ordinarily have expected him to put Cockell away earlier. Not a big deal- for example, strictly speaking, no-name cruiserweight Ricardo Richardson beat Jose Ribalta more "effectively" and "definitively" than a prime Mike Tyson did.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No. An infighter punches inside what would normaaly be considered the optimum range for throwing punches. We are talking inches. He also maintains a low profile to make himself harder to counter.

    Tyson never mastered this.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Oh dear. The kids today really dont learn what infighting means.
     
  5. KTFO

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    That's what I said already.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    A first class infighter will sacrifice power to get the shortest distence of travel possible. We are not just talking about the distence you need to get power into an uppercut or hook.
     
  7. KTFO

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    How old are you clown? I think you're not aware of who you're talking to.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am 29.

    Who exactly am I talking to if I should know already?
     
  9. KTFO

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    That's incorrect. Plain and simple.

    Semi-Hugging Shoulder to Chest Style doesn't generate maximum powerpunches.
     
  10. Ura-Nage

    Ura-Nage New Member Full Member

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    A few things-

    Marciano slaughtered Cockell. This fight is always brought up and I have no idea why. Its one of the few, clear Marciano fights we have and the footage is savage. Check out the double left hook Marciano crushes Cockell with.

    Holyfield got hit to much to beat Marciano.

    Ali had the recuperative abilities to come back from a Marciano beat down. Possibly Holmes and Louis.
     
  11. janitor

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    No. You loose power but the punches are imposible to predict or stop. This is the ultimate expresion of the art.

    Produce a list of who you consider to be the best infighters of all time I will explain why they were not infact that.
     
  12. KTFO

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    Certainly no teenager or highschool puppy that you are apparantly.
     
  13. KTFO

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    I assume you are new to boxing. That's no shame.
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Most people on this site have me pegged at about 70.
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Verry easy to make remarks speculating about my age and background.

    Why dont you prove your superior knowledge by listing the five fighters you consider to be the best infighters of all time and explaining why they are the best five in terms of technique.

    You might find that you dont know as much as you think.

    Anyway I am off to bed.

    Make your list and I will scrutinize it tomorrow.