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When was Roy Jones Jr not a top level boxer any more?

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Tekniqs said: ↑

reggie johnson probably...he was still elite but i think he started declining from there. woods was able to trap him along the ropes a few times in their fight and that showed to me his movement was starting to fade. he made kelly look stupid...but it was kelly lol. i remember steward saying kelly's trainer would have been a bigger problem for jones than kelly was haha.

his move up to heavy was his last hurrah...had he not moved back down, i don't think his downfall would have been as quick...but losing muscle weight took a toll on him. i think tarver 1 was still a good jones, dood was just weight drained, lethargic, dehydrated, whatever. you never saw roy jones tired and he looked faded in that fight by the middle rounds. tarver 2, i think jones was still capable of fighting at the elite level but he just got caught by that left hand from satan. then it was a sudden and quick demise from there.

@techks...i have his career set all the way to the 1st johnson fight...it's a good set. who else had that combination of power and speed? dude had 1 shot KO power at super middle and was faster than most people at the lower weights
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Not just the weight but age had something to do with Jones' deterioration too he was getting older. Going into the Tarver fight he was 33/34? I can't remember and can't be bothered looking it up but to make matters short the guy was in his 30's. Once you get there your reflexes start declining drastically and you can't move exactly how you used to in your 20's and Jones wasn't the kind of fighter to rely on technique so his style never suited aging in the first place. He looked fine in the Woods fight but he looked like he couldn't be bothered and I think he was just bored more than anything. After beating Ruiz I'd say whatever hunger he had evaporised. I hope to get RJJ's career set because I'm a big Roy fan and I also want to truly see if he was declining in 01-02.
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All of the responses have been great reads but I truly enjoy these 2 responses.

AlisJab, Sep 24, 2010

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AlisJab said: ↑

All of the responses have been great reads but I truly enjoy these 2 responses.
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that's how techks roles!

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Tekniqs said: ↑

reggie johnson probably...he was still elite but i think he started declining from there. woods was able to trap him along the ropes a few times in their fight and that showed to me his movement was starting to fade. he made kelly look stupid...but it was kelly lol. i remember steward saying kelly's trainer would have been a bigger problem for jones than kelly was haha.

his move up to heavy was his last hurrah...had he not moved back down, i don't think his downfall would have been as quick...but losing muscle weight took a toll on him. i think tarver 1 was still a good jones, dood was just weight drained, lethargic, dehydrated, whatever. you never saw roy jones tired and he looked faded in that fight by the middle rounds. tarver 2, i think jones was still capable of fighting at the elite level but he just got caught by that left hand from satan. then it was a sudden and quick demise from there.

@techks...i have his career set all the way to the 1st johnson fight...it's a good set. who else had that combination of power and speed? dude had 1 shot KO power at super middle and was faster than most people at the lower weights
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I hope to get Roy & Hops career set within a month or two I'm a gigantic fan of both. Jones was so special it's like he had a magical aura around him in his prime he seemed untouchable. Bute seems to have a similar aura but he isn't Jones. Bring back the Old Roy!!!lol

@ Jorodz: Thanks dude.

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that's how techks roles!
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I see that, lol. Good stuff.

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I hope to get Roy & Hops career set within a month or two I'm a gigantic fan of both. Jones was so special it's like he had a magical aura around him in his prime he seemed untouchable. Bute seems to have a similar aura but he isn't Jones. Bring back the Old Roy!!!lol
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Yeah man we need to all pitch in and see if we can buy one of those hot tub time machines! lol

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Yeah man we need to all pitch in and see if we can buy one of those hot tub time machines! lol
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We should. Or we can steal a DeLorean time machine from Doc Brown. Much cheaper. lol

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We should. Or we can steal a DeLorean time machine from Doc Brown. Much cheaper. lol
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While we're at it let's bring back guys like Ali, and Hearns so we can all stand in the way of their ring walk when their speech starts to slow down. It's sad when they have to use captions when these guys talk.

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While we're at it let's bring back guys like Ali, and Hearns so we can all stand in the way of their ring walk when their speech starts to slow down. It's sad when they have to use captions when these guys talk.
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I know especially seeing guys you grew up on having slurred speeches. It's sad.

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I know especially seeing guys you grew up on having slurred speeches. It's sad.
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I agree.

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To be honest when he started rapping thats when the universe said hold up you think u can rap too let me humble you :deal

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after the second Tarver fight.

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IMO, he was never quite the same after he beat Ruiz for the HW title in 2003.

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When he stopped having anything to prove.

After he beat Ruiz everyone was on his nuts like he was Ray Robinson's reincarnation.

He was just doing it for money after that.

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After the Johnson fight he became irrelevant.

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when he lost to the korean in the olympics. Totally exposed

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