Where do you rank Jack Dempsey??

Benny Leonrard was the greatest fighter of that generaion p4p IMO

 

HH = never good in his day,an twisted with hate beyond anything ive ever seen on here,you lost everybody when you said he was not in the top 75 haha,you must be some right clown.

 

How come HH is ok to say willis as great,while dempseys not?,he may have not been as good as anyone says,there **** all proof,dempsey would have killed the bum.

 

Or Greb. But I think the phrase "greatest fighter of his generation"
was in this case referring to greatest heavyweight fighter and therefore
the man who could lick any other man in the world.

 

I always enjoy a grasshopper myself.

 

a. The tragedy of racial discrimination against the great early black fighters places them in an honorable-mention class all their own, but in terms of achievements, Jack Dempsey was the greatest fighter of his generation. And I still think he would blast out Wills. Babe Ruth’s accomplishments are not nullified by the existence of the Negro Leagues.

b. Thanks for the Carroll and Dawson critiques. No fighter ever has been unanimously praised. And yet I have to take an opinion that says Dempsey could do nothing against Gibbons with a little salt. I have the film and Dempsey won clearly, punching aggressively over 15 rounds, with Gibbons in survival mode.

 

No of course he was not alone in this.

The point is that when everybody is starting at this level the gap between guys starting out on their careers and those who have established themselves with a manager and training camp is magnified a hundred fold.

Of course your primary motivation seems to be to use the circumstances of these fighters early careers as a tool to tear down their legacies.

 

Prime Randy Couture d. Prime Mike Tyson, R1, 2:00

 

Ray Arcel's verdict on how Dempsey would have fared against subsequent champions.

“Dempsey would have absolutely beaten any fighter who came after him – without a doubt. I know all about Joe Louis and how he knocked guys’ teeth out. I have every respect for Joe – I rate him number two. But Dempsey would have killed Louis, George Foreman, any of those guys. What Jack had was God-given – you can’t develop the kind of talent he had.

Marciano? Same result. Dempsey would have murdered Rocky. I tell you, Jack would have chased everyone out of the ring. I trained Max Baer a couple of times and often got asked how good that booming right of his was and whether it was as good as anything Dempsey had. Are you kidding? It wasn’t even close.

Mike Tyson might have got through a round with Dempsey, maybe two. People always asked me what Jack’s weaknesses were. That’s the point – he didn’t have any.”

 

Mike Hunnicut's verdict based on extensive frame by frame analysis of footage of Dempsey-

“When you watch the films of Joe Louis and zoom in, it’s incredible to behold what Joe could do – fantastic.

But a real close-up view of Dempsey in real time has an almost surreal quality to it – his incredible animal-like moves and co-ordination, his terrific punch and all-round toughness. It absolutely floors the viewer. These are the qualities that the Lou Stillmans and the Ray Arcels were referring to.

Dempsey’s footwork, his overall boxing ability and his reflexes were genuinely exceptional. You can’t conveniently group that man with anyone else.”

 

Nah, his primary motivation is trolling. Trolling under a handful of different screen names.

 

:good

 

Ha ha ha

Why don't we all make a handfull of aliases who agree with us and make sycophantic observations about our posts.

Just to preserve the corect ratio between troll and sensible person and create a level playing field.

I could be-

janitor, janiter, janitah and janetor