So what? Rahman beat Lewis, McCall beat Lewis. How come they are never on any Top30 list... Vitali and Wladimir are the most dominant forces from the after Lewis era, Schmeling was hardly 'The Man' during his time.
Translation from Klitshite to English: ''he is a two time paper champion, who has never unified let alone held the undisputed title. He won his fight against a limited, fat plodder who was stylistically made for him and never any good anyway. His KO percentage is good, but against disgracefully bad opposition.'' And how is the pair of brothers bit an achievement? :hi::blurp:blurp:blurp
Schmeling also has Uzcudun, Risko, Stribling, Sharkey. His defeat of Louis wasn't a pocket-rocket punch from the blue against a chinny champ. It was a systematic out-boxing and domination with a KO. Louis is higher than Lewis on most lists anyway. McCall and Rahman both lost every other time they stepped up to the highest level. I'd still like to hear why Vitali is "miles ahead" of Shmeling in terms of all time great standing.
I don't think you can argue that he should be top 30. There's probably a good enough argument that he's top 20 and if you wanted to talk head to head only, someone could certainly try to argue top 10...he's just one of the few HW fighters that seemingly has never had that much of a problem with any of his opponents (outside of top 5 ATG Lennox Lewis). Personally I'd put him around 20. I think his brother is almost certainly top 15 at this point.
The two best fighters he's fought - Lewis and Byrd - He lost too. How the crap is that a top 20 HW all time?
atsch Points doesn’t mean anything if you decide to quit and give victory to your opponent. Or did Tyson win he’s last match against McBride too?
Klit-ite bias, you've gotta love it If it had been WALDO that landed that shot and followed up and put his man on the canvas you lot would be posting highlights of it from here to eternity....because it was one of your boys that got clocked you agree with the idiot ref.
It makes the record books, that's how. It's an amazing accomplishment just as much as Tyson being the youngest ever HW champion & Forman being the oldest ever. Amazing also how all of the Klitschko's opponents become ****, nothing special & plodders after they get their asses kicked by the bros. You guys are so predictable.
I rank Schmeling higher than Vitali but lower than Wladimir based on accomplishments. Head to head is another story. Either brother KO's Max head to head.
I'm a big fan of Klitschko but this^^^ is what i think too. Maybe he can accomplish more in his career then we're talking
Neither do I. Perhaps it stems from Vitali forcing Lewis to either give him the re-match he promised he would, or lose his belt? Lewis opted to retire and pass on a $15,000,000.00 pay day. Lewis knew he was lucky in the first match, otherwise he gives the re-match. Perhaps it was the Hide fight? Perhaps it was the Danny Williams fight?