Where does Dmitry Bivol rank on the P4P list?

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Crawford

 

Does anyone actually think Bivol would beat Usyk Inoue or Crawford if he was their size? Great fighter but come on

 

I think he give them all a run for their money.

Bivol has defeated 2 undisputed champions, with one guy being the best puncher in boxing and the other, the former #1 P4P fighter in the world.

I think he matches up well against anyone if they're the same weight. I don't think Inoue or Crawford has ever fought someone as skilled as Bivol. Maybe Usyk has, but I don't think the other guys have.

 

Crawford is the best of them all but he doesn’t have the resume, I don’t think him beating Canelo will even be enough. It’s a shame because he does things that I don’t see anyone else does, he can react to an opponents offence on the move, turn a jab into a check hook on the back foot, his composure is the best in the game, does he beat Canelo? I think he might but by all rights he shouldn’t really have a chance.
I think you could say that Bivol didn’t beat a prime beterbiev but he is not on the slide in any shape or form, where as Kovalev was clearly cream crackered.
Bivol is the most similar to usyk in that he controls the range even when he’s in defensive mode and stays disciplined.
Usyk has the resume that all the others can only dream of, but he’s the hardest to beat because he knows it’s all about moments in fights and he always makes sure he has more than his opponent, it’s like he’s calculating every single shot in his head, I think it goes unnoticed but I think he could probably give you more accurate punch stats than compubox hahaha, that’s the way I see it like.
But the truth is if you changed the size of any of those fighters they wouldn’t be who they are in the ring.

 

p4p is for the current state of boxing. crawford did not look great his last fight, he might not be the fighter he once was. therefore might not be fighting at the highest levels anymore. and if hes not, then he doesnt belong at #3 p4p.

 

It’s funny how his performance in the first fight was as impressive in many ways but he didn’t get the credit at all.
Now 3 people with score cards give him the victory and everyone is blowing smoke up him, my opinion on him wasn’t and isn’t influenced by the opinions of 3 judges.
Is performance in the first fight way sensational and again in the second, only he gave the judges more aggression to get the win.
He had to take a few licks in the second fight to get his own shots off, but in the first he barely getting touched (gloves apart).
It’s the art of hit and not get hit and he did exactly that in the first fight.
For what I look for the performance in the first fight was better, and he could have done the same again staying out of range and getting his work done on the move but he knew that wouldn’t win it, so he sacrificed some of his discipline to stay in range and exchange fire with fire, he shouldn’t have needed to do that the judges should have been able to spot the sweet science he was demonstrating.
But he shut a few people up who were accusing him of running or being scared of beterbiev.
We need better judges who can actually appreciate the art

 

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This is factually correct, although I believe it’s wrong if that makes sense, but p4p is for the fighters and their teams, my opinion of a fighter doesn’t change based on their ranking, I also wouldn’t use it as an argument for them being better than others.
Resumes are the definitive, but the eye test and performance are the only things I put any value in for my personal opinion.

 

1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Beterbiev
5. Crawford
6. Rodriguez
7. Alvarez
8 to 10 Could be lots of guys.

 

performance level is the primary factor, then resume can be used to confirm what your eyes and the current results are telling you. since buds last performance was not consistent with that of a top 3 p4p fighter, its reasonable to assume that perhaps his age has started to affect his ability to execute. same thing could happen to usyk in his next fight. the top 5 p4p should be able to consistently perform at the highest levels, its what keeps them at the top. their resume can tell you how good they can be, but it cant tell you how good they are right now.

 

This is true but it also skews the narrative like is happening now because Bivol fought last night, in 3 weeks regardless of if any others fight there won’t be the same clamour for him to be elevated in the rankings

 

That is fiction. The REALITY is he beats all but one of them. P4P is a fairytale. Absurdity actually.. if they were all the same size LOL.. you read this **** in childrens books. Btw, Crawford isn't even much smaller than him anyway.. go check them out h2h. If they were the same size always.. makes me **** that

 

..meanwhile Crawford beat a guy who still struggles with accelerator brake & clutch.. but but he two time undisputed doe..

 

How is it a fairytale? Gauging a fighters relative skill level is not hard or absurd