Where does Wilder fit as a H2H HW?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, May 27, 2019.


Where

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  4. 15 to 20

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  5. Lower

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Dont come at me I don't think he's even in the top 25. I just want to see how shocking the forums general thoughts of him were
     
  2. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Too early to tell, imo. His resume is too thin.
     
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  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ok, so you just started the thread for kicks and giggles. I'll play along. As of right now, he fits in somewhere between Herbie Hide and Bruce Seldon on the HW ATG list.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Please like he would go 3 rounds with Riddick Bowe lol
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Loses to these guys:
    Ali
    Tyson
    Wlad
    Vitali
    Lewis
    Holmes (upset possible)
    Louis (upset possible)
    Liston (upset possible)

    IDK:
    Joshua
    Holyfield
    Foreman
    Blond Ortiz

    Probably beats:
    Sanders
    Witherspoon
    M Spinks
    Dempsey
    Tunney
    Povetkin
    Frazier
    Bowe
    Roy Jones
    Haye
    Ibeabuchi

    Lights go out:
    Patterson
    Marciano
    Norton
    Page
    Dokes
    Douglas
    Moorer

    ...approaching top 10 h2h
     
  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hes top 20 only bc he can win as easily lose,hes going to be one of those guys that you either have him losing bad to holmes or catching Holmes...etc....

    A head to head with this guy is like putting him maybe over OLd late 90's foreman so in that equation hes a threat. Should he somehow defeat fury and more importantly Joshua it then changes the spectrum.

    but reality is he can be anywhere from Ruddock to Cooney and in between where the wind blows bc hes got by a big puncher with no speed and smaller guys with less power. his resume is thin ,his last fight was his first power puncher and that doesn't tell us much except maybe he could hurt old foreman ,but Breazeale never landed clean he just wobbled him back with the first punch landed and then..........?

    But 1990's Foreman shouldn't be on anyone's top 10 H2H. I could probably list 20 guys who defeats him including some now.

    The problem here is how do you do fantasy match ups with this guy who needs a knock out ? MOST top guys one can see them out boxing guys at leas t,how many fights will Wilder win LEGIT without a K.O ? Remains to be seen.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Wilder fits as being able to late KO a 40something with no world title pedigree, as his best achievement.

    The H2H ability of a rising contender, in other worlds. Which is a shame seeing as hes a adult in his mid 30s.
     
  8. Aston Villa

    Aston Villa Active Member banned Full Member

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    Terrible evaluation, disgusting in fact
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I suspect it always will be "too early to tell".
     
  10. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Fact of the matter is that his power means the slimmest chance he can ever have in any fight is a puncher's chance.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Is there something that upset you about my list?
     
  12. Aston Villa

    Aston Villa Active Member banned Full Member

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    I honestly don't know where to start
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Apart from maybe Holyfield being left off the first category and Marciano in the last category, there’s nothing too crazy.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yeah care for me to run through it?
     
  15. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    But beating Sam Peter and povetkin does?