Where would Vitlai Klitschko’s comeback rate if he defeats Sam Peter?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is Lennox LEwis not Fat Toney and 37yo MAskeev. Lennox would KO Peter within 5.
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    I'm not having it both ways. In 2002, Tyson stamina was horrible. He had one good round in him, and that was it. How can you think such a fighter is formidable? In 2002 after Round one, Iron Mike was " done ". Watch the fight again.

    As for Sanders, Johnson, Hide and Williams when Klitschko fought them all had more left in the tank than Tyson did in 2002.

    Which complete bum did Kirk Johnson lose to? Once again, you're wrong.

    After Vitlai beat Sanders, Sanders won three fights in a row, then lost because he was 42 years old.

    As for Hide he is 11-2 since his comeback.

    In addition, of course, Vitali crushed the Williams that Tyson fought, and floored Williams in the first round, which is something Tyson could not do.

    Once Again, Tyson lost 3 of his last 4 fights. Losing 3 of 4 = a shot fighter. There is no other way to spin it. I have pretty much said what needs to be said here, and I grow weary of looking at the transvestite in your avatar. We are not going to agree.
     
    Mendoza, Mar 21, 2008
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  3. PowerPuncher

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    Tyson was 49-3 coming into the Lewis fight. What he did 2years later is largely irrelevant, Tyson lost to Lewis, he didnt lose again until 2years later after being inactive and dejected from the loss. NOTE none of Vitali's opponents had success after losing to Vitali

    Fat Kirk Johnson lost to Mora but the stoppage decision was wrongfully changed by a corrupt promoter to a NC, Johnson still lost though

    Sanders/Hide/Williams all lost to bums/journeymen within 2years of the defeat. Hide has never beat a ranked opponent EVER, he lost to a nobody Chinango the year after Vitali beat him.

    FRAudley Harrison beat Williams in 2 rounds which is something. Based on your logic that Tyson couldn't stop Williams that make Fraulety more dangerous than Vitali :yep Also Fat Sinal Sam beat Williams in 5 :yep

    Sanders only had 2rounds in his bank and thats very notable, and Sanders wasnt in Tysons league
     
    PowerPuncher, Mar 21, 2008
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Tyson was done coming into the Lewis bout and was 1-3 in his last four fights. The stamina, heart, and skills were gone. It seems your fishing for tangents. I am not going to read the rest of the stuff your posting here because you ignore the facts around Tyson. Ill say this, I'd bet my house if Vitlai Klitshcko Ko'd Tyson ( the fight was close to being made, but Williams upset Tyson ) you be the first one to say Tyson was shot as early as a Lewis fight. Yep.
     
    Mendoza, Mar 21, 2008
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  5. PowerPuncher

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    All of Vitali's opponents lost to worse opponents than Danny WIlliams within 3years of fighting Vitali just like Tyson did after facing Lewis. If Tyson is shot so was Sanders/Williams/Johnson/Hide:yep . Face it but you won't because your a hypocrite :yep

    BTW 49-3 coming into the Lewis fight :yep
     
    PowerPuncher, Mar 21, 2008
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  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    And none of them lost three of their last four. :deal

    All of Vitali's opponents lost to worse than Danny Williams within 3 years of fighting Vitlai. Wrong again!!!. :lol::lol::lol: Care to bet me on the last statement? I think not. If you have anthing else to say, just send me a PM.
     
    Mendoza, Mar 21, 2008
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  7. PowerPuncher

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    Lets see who Vitalis last 3 opponents lost too within a few fights of fighting Vitali:

    Machimana is leagues worse than Danny Williams

    Mora is leagues worse than Danny Williams

    Chinchangu is leagues worse than Danny Williams

    Audley is worse than Danny Williams

    Skeleton is worse than Danny Williams

    I'm off to eat my Easter fish dinner
     
    PowerPuncher, Mar 21, 2008
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  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I see you won't take a bet to back up your own words.....
     
    Mendoza, Mar 21, 2008
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  9. PowerPuncher

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    Williams lost 4 fights in the 2 1/2 year gap he faced Vitali

    Corries Sanders got ko'd by a bum in the first round 3 fights after facing Vitali

    Kird Johnson lost to a bum 3 fights (3years) after facing Vitali

    According to your logic ther all shot :yep

    OK I'm really going to my meal now

     
    PowerPuncher, Mar 21, 2008
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  10. Mendoza

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    Once again, Johnson did not lose at all, and Sanders lost once when he was 42, but won all the fights leading up to that point. At age 42, who cares?

    Pound on Danny Williams all you wish, he beat Tyson, who you are arguing was not shot despite losing 3 of his last 4 fights. If Williams was a bad as you said, then what does that say about Tyson? DOH.


    You're a funny guy. I bet you think your doing well. Keep up the good work!
     
    Mendoza, Mar 21, 2008
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  11. PowerPuncher

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    Your right Sanders was 38 against Vitali - so who cares about that win at 38 and 30lbs overweight? Its good your finally accepting Sanders was shot and Rahman left overs

    I see you now accept Danny Williams is a weak and past prime opponent now you see he lost 5times within the 4year period were he faced Vitali

    Kirk Johnson did lose to Mora, he got tko'd and the original result was a TKO but the promoter paid to have it changed to a NC so Kirks record wouldnt look as bad

    Face it no one Vitali has beat has been anything big before or after Vitali beat them. I'm only using your logic of looking at opponents losses before and after they face Vitali/Lennox

    According to Klitchko logic Tyson didnt lose against Williams because he got injured by tearing his knee thus only losing by injury - thats a valid reason for a loss according to klitmaniacs isnt it? Or does that only apply to the golden boy?
     
    PowerPuncher, Mar 21, 2008
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  12. PowerPuncher

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    Sounds like this may have been a publicity stunt as Vitali's decided to campaign for mayor instead
     
    PowerPuncher, Mar 22, 2008
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:
     
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  14. Mendoza

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    Um, Sanders best weight was 220-225. Sanders was 235 in clothes for Vitlai. How was he 30 pounds over weight for Vitlai?

    Please explain how this is 30 pounds overweight? I'm all ears. I know you hate Klitschko, but at least you can be objective.

    Also, you might want to know that Sanders was 235 when he beat Valdes, and 238 when he beat crusier weight champ Czyz.

    30 pounds over weight you say? Add that to your vault of classics.
     
    Mendoza, Oct 10, 2008
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  15. SuzieQ49

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    johnson weighed in at a career high 260lb, literally 25lb over his best fighting weight. johnson was disgustingly obese.
     
    SuzieQ49, Oct 10, 2008
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