Which champion faced the Worst opposition?

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  1. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Obviously it would be Calzaghe and I haven't voted or looked at the results, but that's the whole point in putting all future HOFers on the list.

    Some fighters in the last 15 years have faced stiffer competition than Calzaghe and therefore he's a fraud is usually the point that these threads are trying to make. (Not that I agree with it).
     
  2. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Alright, who was the genius that voted DLH:lol:
     
  3. Realspitts

    Realspitts Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    The IBF along with DKP were succesfully investigated for corruption from the late 80's through to the 90's. King had much stronger ties with the IBF than he did with the WBC and pretty much did as he will. He was instrumental in his fighters like Holmes and Hagler being given titles which allowed him to control the title. When he lost control of the heavy title when Mike won the tourney he simply bought Mike.

    The only reason why the WBC agreed to the unification was because of the amount of money they stood to make in sanctioning fees. At the time it simply meant ecnomic sense. It was mostly SN fighters that were still fighting for the WBO though, a trend that is still here to this day.

    The WBA REALLY REALLY ****ed with their super champ status which was simply another way for them to get more sanctioning fees. There was a very odd scenario at 168 some years back that went unanswered by the WBA. Ottke beat Mitchell for the WBA and already had the IBF. On unification he was designated their "Super" champ. Mundine went on to fight and win the vacant "regular" WBA belt. Joe at the time was ranked number 2 behind Sven. If Joe had fought and beaten Mundine he would have unified the WBO and WBA. What would have that made Sven? A super duper champ? Would the title have been vacated again to create a 3rd champ? Iv never seen such a stupid idea in all my life.

    Equally the WBC did exactly the same thing with there "Emeritus" nonsense. They vacated the title at 140 allowing Gatti to fight for the "regular" belt because Kostya was declared their Emeritus champ. The only reason why i give them any time is because of their history. If it wasnt for that their belts would be worth nothing.
     
  5. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    That was the refs fault. Some german sausage viking mustached krout. Worst piece of officiating iv ever seen.
     
  6. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    Oh lord, pls stick to making threads like " Mayweather vs. Williams would be like Leonard vs. Hearns" cuzz honestly, this post is even dumber..
     
  7. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    another JC hating thread how tedious
     
  8. HeavyT

    HeavyT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I did have toi choose Calzaghe BUT I do think he was the best in his division(he would have beat Ottke) and definitely a better boxer than some others on the list.
     
  9. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    Calzaghe winning by a landslide :rofl
     
  10. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    who are the 4 ***gits that voted Pacman,Mosley and Delahoya
     
  11. It makes me laugh how most of the Joe fanboys who.... harp on about how Joe dominated the SMW for 10 years and how he cleaned out the whole division, when infact it was Ottke who was the number 1 and unified 2 years before Joe did

    All Joe did was defend his WBO against poor opposition then beat Lacy and Kessler to become lineal champ for the first time. 10 years after beating Eubank for the vacant WBO belt
     
  12. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is calzaghe 's opposition so bad huh? he fought basically every super middle weight he could...name me one hes really missed out on. its funny because theres fighters like mayweather(who im a fan of) have champions ready and waiting and he hasnt fought them but calzaghe is somehow in the same bracket--a pro who didnt even go to the olympics and had knowhere near the buzz surrounding himself as some of the others....
     
  13. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Uhh...no. The second Benn Eubank fight was in '93. The WBO didn't garner any serious respect and gain its status as the fourth major sanctioning body for almost a decade afterward. Their rankings continued to be a complete farce for years, and in 2001, they even advanced a dead fighter whose into the top ten for one of their world championships. The only reason that they are on par with the WBC,WBA, and IBF at present is because the other orgs continue to disgrace themselves and their "titles."
     
  14. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only one guy on the list fought a reality star from the conteder. Joe Calzaghe
     
  15. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The point I was making was that after Eubank-Benn II the WBC started to recognise their belt holders as champions and stopped giving them rankings in their own ratings. Before that a WBO champ had to relinquish his belt to fight for a WBC one but that recognition gave them a parity of sorts with the other bodies, even if they did still produce the weakest champions on average. The IBF and WBA also started to recognise them soon after.

    Even though their champs were still weak for several more years that was when they started to become an organisation like the WBC or WBA rather than one like the WBU or WBF.