Which is better, 50-0 or 89-0?

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  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    You cannot actually be serious with this response?
    Are you implying these guys with losing records from Mexico were actually good fighters? Do you have anything whatsoever to base this on?
     
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  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll take Julio Cesar Chavez' top 12 opponents over Mayweather's top 12 anyday!
    …...and just about everyone of those 12 fighters was at or near their prime when Chavez was facing them.
     
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  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    First off, it's 87-0 and 89-0-1.

    When you look at just what those numbers mean, then it's no contest.
    One of the biggest combined records in boxing history vs a minor record which got blown up for a the wrong reason as it was compared to the HW win record (much harder).
     
    Robney, Jun 17, 2020
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  4. Yung Goku

    Yung Goku New Member Full Member

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    This is a loaded question of course the higher number of wins is greater if you ignore the competition faced.
     
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  5. Jobo1878

    Jobo1878 Active Member Full Member

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    89-0 obviously, but then you have to look at resume etc. Im sure I saw an article that said Chavez lost or drew a fight quite early in his career but then it got changed afterwards
     
    Jobo1878, Jun 27, 2020
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  6. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Boxrec is a nice resource, but some of the records are way off.
     
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  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    JCC
     
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  8. Abysswalker

    Abysswalker Member Full Member

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    A non manufactured 45-5 is better than a 50-0 where a certain boxer picks the referee, the judges and even pay their opponents to not wear "certain gloves" IMHO. But whatever...
     
    Abysswalker, Jun 28, 2020
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  9. ILikeBoxingForRealz

    ILikeBoxingForRealz Active Member Full Member

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    89-0 for me. An average joe of the street, if you put him thru 89 street fights and wins 89 of them, regardless of talent or talent fought, thats an unbelievable feat.
     
    ILikeBoxingForRealz, Jun 28, 2020
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  10. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Truth....
     
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  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    JCC better wins
     
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