[url]Virgil Hill[/url] is undeserving. Beaten by Dariusz M in a unification bout, he gets in but Dariusz is excluded because he's European. Neither are in the IBHOF.
Even if i agreed with your logic, gatti wasnt really that famous. How many ppvs was he the a side for? Hes was about as famous as Tim Bradley.
Hill is borderline acceptable. Two lengthy title reigns, defeated a long reigning titleholder in Maske (in Maske's backyard), and holds two wins over Fabrice Tiozzo (who defeated DM), thereby preventing the latter from serious consideration for the HOF. To be fair, I wouldn't hate the idea of DM being inducted, even if Dariusz's quality of opposition was a bit lackluster throughout much of his LH reign.
Ottke does not need respect from US dumbasses. Bear in mind: your HOF and other bull**** like ATG is actual only in US. Only. So take this and call US hall of boxing fame or otherwise. This is actual ONLY in US. Kids, US is not all world.
Sven "My Grandma hits harder than me" Ottke refused to defend his title outside Germany and most his fights, the referees and ringside officials were usually German as well. US is not all world. Coming from someone who supports a guy who only fought in Germany. Way to call the kettle black bud.
Ohh, you are so smart. You are supporting boxers who did the same things as Ottke did. With expection: Canelo does not only the same as Ottke did, he does more: Ottke NEVER had put his opponents on catchweight with rehydration clauses, never had used for title defense dragged up welterweights and boxers who did not had won 1 fight during their 3 last fights. For you ALL is allowed to US based boxers like Canelo. For you is cool all these Ward, DLH etc fights and achievements. Because you think that German boxers are slaves for US boxing industry and should follow orders from US slave masters. Ottke at least was more fair champion than Canelo is. Ottke is the same as Ward: they fought professionally only where they were tickets sellers. You think US boxing is slaves master center and US boxers should be judged with DIFFERENT criteria. For you Ward is greater than Ottke just cos boxers ORIGIN. Otherwise they were THE SAME. LOL. In US slavery had been cancelled long ago, still you are thinking all ppl are US boxing industry SLAVES. YOU USE DUAL CRITERIA. COS WARD IS OTTKE NO2. ONLY US BOXING FANS DOES NOT SEE THIS.
If fighting outside of country where boxer is big tickets seller is criteria: then sorry for harsh reality: Cunningham is above Canelo, Ward, DLH and LEVEL above. If you use for critique this criteria, then YEAH, Cunningham is greather than all these. He is from US and he fought for world title in Germany and had won this one via decision. Great US boxer Cunningham.
The The United States of America is the "Mecca of Boxing". Up and coming boxers don't dream and say, "Someday I'll be able to fight in Germany..lol...Even your very own Max Schmeling had to travel to the United States, not once, but twice, in order to fight Joe Louis. You're like comparing the NBA (America) to the EuroLeague...LMFAO!!!
US based boxer Andrew Tabiti had turned into cotender for IBF World title in Russia when he had defeated undefeated prospect and after this had get fight vs Dorticos for World title. Dorticos is US based Cuban origin boxer, still he get his world title opportunities in hated by you europe. He turned into IBF World Champion in hated by you europe not in " Mecca of boxing". Btw, list me fights they both had in US during last 2 years? Cunningham had get his world title shot and world title in europe not in mecca of boxing. How much US boxers are in top 10 HW today? CW boxers? LOL. Damn. LOL. Of course US boxing does have heavily stacked with talent divisions for smaller guys: 175, 168, 160 and lower weight classes. There they does have enough. You still are thinking that US rullz all world. It isn't and in US boxing is niche sport for casual fans, NBA and other things are mainstream. Fighting sports are niche sports and there boxing is competing with MMA ( in US ) for wievership.
In Germany too btw: Bundesliga is more popular thing than all these prizefighters. Maske's time is gone long ago. I mean ALL prize fighters, not only boxers.
One thing you have correct: in US basketball is very popular. More than combat sports. I had interest to lurk at numbers of followers in IG for some athletes. I had find out that some NBA players does have higher followers number than these boxers together: Loma, Usyk, Wilder, Lopez, Tank and KingRyan. Some NBA players does have > 50 m followers on IG, some one - two almost 100m followers on IG, some more than 75 m followers. Le Born James is more popular than Loma, Lopez, Usyk, Wilder, Tank, KingRyan together.
Ice hockey: NHL is Mecca, yeah. However Mecca are both these countries: Canada and U.S and you might learn a lot even if you play in minor leagues not only in NHL in these countries. Both: Canada and U.S. Basketball: US is Mecca, yeah. Real Mecca and even leagues below NBA are very high level, again you might learn a lot if you play for college or uni.
He had a much bigger and loyal following than Bradley. HoF is not about PPVs. Many fighters in the HoF never sold a single PPV. These guys and a whole bunch more similar made it too. Buddy McGirt Danny Lopez Edwin Rosario
Naseem Hamed, he's just a clown. He never beat nobody. He was seriously fundamently flawed. Barrera owned him with ease. You shouldn't get in the hall of fame just for 'entertainment', it's like he got a pass just for being a mouthy clown and having flashy ring walks.
