Throwing stones inside your glass house I see. You guys are always complaining about people making generalizations about US posters, but here you are doing the exact same thing. KT had a lot of talent, better IMO then his resume actually shows. From discussions I have had in the aussie forum regarding KT most people simply think he was a great exciting fighter. I have yet to see anyone who thinks he is a top ATG based on resume or even ability for that matter.
You guys can sort out the details regarding Tszyu. Whenever I read his name, I can only think about one thing. What a straight right hand.
WHOA!!!! If you look in some of the post about KT....there have been some Aussie posters who have KT as a top 10 ATG....YES, TOP TEN OF ALL TIME (the old Whitaker vs KT thread immediately jumps to mind...the one before the server crash...)!!! You are a great poster MSTR, so hense why I said SOME (and YES, some Aussie posters SEVERELY OVERRATE HIM)! If you took offense bro, know that it was not aimed at you....my apologies bro!!! And Skake is right....that straight right was a thing of beauty.
Fair enough mate. That thread was ridiculous. Boppa from memory got really riled up and starting making some ridiculous claims about KT having a better right hand then Hearns, and being a better ATG then Whitaker. To his defence, he is actually a better poster then that and knows that is wrong, but started clutching at straws in an attempt to build an arguement. If Aussie posters have been making statements like the ones you listed then I fully agree with you. We have discussed this is in recent times however only in the Aus forum and people were much more objective about it.
:good And I know Boppa is better than he let on in that thread....but that day....he was sayin some outlandish ****....
I think KT was better than made out to be. His precision was out of this world. I guess it happens alot. If a guy ends his career with loses, seemingly those deterioate peoples impressions of him. There was a time, when people thought he was unbeatable. The same things seems to be going for RJJ, and without romantic figures like myself, people would probably say that he was overrated throughout his career.
I think the Hatton loss gets blown out of proportion by so many people. I mean, every now and then, I hear some nimrod say "of course Fighter X would have beat Tszyu, he's a quitter" and/or "he got KO'd by Vince Phillips!" The dude quit in the last fight of his career after going undefeated for a decade and unifying the division, and suddenly that's the consensus for what would happen if he was in a tough fight? I feel like the same thing happened to Roy Jones Jr. after Jones-Tarver II. You have a bunch of tools rushing into any argument when his name comes up, saying that Jones has a glass chin. What nonsense! You would think that we would have found out a lot sooner than when he was 35 years old, towards the end of his career, coming back down from f***ing heavyweight after being utterly dominant his entire career. But I digress.....:yep
Average-good resume at best. He was not that active as a fighter. To claim he was ducked is sheer and utter nonsense b/c he pulled out of a few fights b/c of injuries. He is overrated b/c though he was skilled and a real technician in there, he never really accomplished that much. Beating Sharmba twice and for a guy to say Sharmba was in his prime the second fight is utter nonsense..Hell no...Sharmba was never a top fighter but just a good fighter. The zab win was his best win and that was his best win. He got knocked out by Vince Phillips which no other fighter that is top p4p would be forgiven for in his prime. That is like if Corley knocked out Floyd at 140. Same effect. His fanbase really has no ammunition. He beat some regular solid contenders.. But guess what..every other fighter on that level does the same thing against the same caliber of fighter.