Who did Tszyu beat?

DanePugilist · Aug 29, 2007

Shiftygrits said:

Average-good resume at best. He was not that active as a fighter. To claim he was ducked is sheer and utter nonsense b/c he pulled out of a few fights b/c of injuries. He is overrated b/c though he was skilled and a real technician in there, he never really accomplished that much. Beating Sharmba twice and for a guy to say Sharmba was in his prime the second fight is utter nonsense..Hell no...Sharmba was never a top fighter but just a good fighter. The zab win was his best win and that was his best win. He got knocked out by Vince Phillips which no other fighter that is top p4p would be forgiven for in his prime. That is like if Corley knocked out Floyd at 140. Same effect. His fanbase really has no ammunition. He beat some regular solid contenders.. But guess what..every other fighter on that level does the same thing against the same caliber of fighter.
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Haven't you learned anything from watching boxing? So in lieu with what you are saying; Ali was in reality just overrated because he got beaten by Leon Spinks?

Another tip. Walls of text makes garbage even more intolerable.

dave82 · Aug 29, 2007

Shiftygrits said:

Average-good resume at best. He was not that active as a fighter. To claim he was ducked is sheer and utter nonsense b/c he pulled out of a few fights b/c of injuries. He is overrated b/c though he was skilled and a real technician in there, he never really accomplished that much. Beating Sharmba twice and for a guy to say Sharmba was in his prime the second fight is utter nonsense..Hell no...Sharmba was never a top fighter but just a good fighter. The zab win was his best win and that was his best win. He got knocked out by Vince Phillips which no other fighter that is top p4p would be forgiven for in his prime. That is like if Corley knocked out Floyd at 140. Same effect. His fanbase really has no ammunition. He beat some regular solid contenders.. But guess what..every other fighter on that level does the same thing against the same caliber of fighter.
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I rather a rabbit did a **** in my ear than have to read one of your posts again atsch

DanePugilist · Aug 29, 2007

snoopy said:

I think the Hatton loss gets blown out of proportion by so many people. I mean, every now and then, I hear some nimrod say "of course Fighter X would have beat Tszyu, he's a quitter" and/or "he got KO'd by Vince Phillips!" The dude quit in the last fight of his career after going undefeated for a decade and unifying the division, and suddenly that's the consensus for what would happen if he was in a tough fight?

I feel like the same thing happened to Roy Jones Jr. after Jones-Tarver II. You have a bunch of tools rushing into any argument when his name comes up, saying that Jones has a glass chin. What nonsense! You would think that we would have found out a lot sooner than when he was 35 years old, towards the end of his career, coming back down from f***ing heavyweight after being utterly dominant his entire career. But I digress.....:yep
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:good :good - I see we are on the same page.

PACZ · Aug 29, 2007

Ya, He Did Smoke A Tall Lanky Vernon Forrest For The Gold Medal. He Ruined Sharmba. He Was At The Top Of A Very Deep Division.

PACZ · Aug 29, 2007

He Also Fought Ring Magazines #1 Contenders. He Didn't Pick His Fights.

EVEN THE EGO BOASTING FLOYD MAYWEATHER GAVE HIM PROPS! THATS GOT TO SAY ALOT!

Asterion · Aug 29, 2007

His competition is better than Pryor's comp. :smoke

DanePugilist · Aug 29, 2007

Asterion said:

His competition is better than Pryor's comp. :smoke
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Must be Richard rather than Aaron

MSTR · Aug 29, 2007

snoopy said:

I think the Hatton loss gets blown out of proportion by so many people. I mean, every now and then, I hear some nimrod say "of course Fighter X would have beat Tszyu, he's a quitter" and/or "he got KO'd by Vince Phillips!" The dude quit in the last fight of his career after going undefeated for a decade and unifying the division, and suddenly that's the consensus for what would happen if he was in a tough fight?

I feel like the same thing happened to Roy Jones Jr. after Jones-Tarver II. You have a bunch of tools rushing into any argument when his name comes up, saying that Jones has a glass chin. What nonsense! You would think that we would have found out a lot sooner than when he was 35 years old, towards the end of his career, coming back down from f***ing heavyweight after being utterly dominant his entire career. But I digress.....:yep
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Good Post.

sues2nd · Aug 29, 2007

snoopy said:

I think the Hatton loss gets blown out of proportion by so many people. I mean, every now and then, I hear some nimrod say "of course Fighter X would have beat Tszyu, he's a quitter" and/or "he got KO'd by Vince Phillips!" The dude quit in the last fight of his career after going undefeated for a decade and unifying the division, and suddenly that's the consensus for what would happen if he was in a tough fight?

I feel like the same thing happened to Roy Jones Jr. after Jones-Tarver II. You have a bunch of tools rushing into any argument when his name comes up, saying that Jones has a glass chin. What nonsense! You would think that we would have found out a lot sooner than when he was 35 years old, towards the end of his career, coming back down from f***ing heavyweight after being utterly dominant his entire career. But I digress.....:yep
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:happy :happy :happy

Fantastic post!!!

BoppaZoo · Aug 29, 2007

sues2nd said:

:good

And I know Boppa is better than he let on in that thread....but that day....he was sayin some outlandish ****....
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i did most of that to get the USA fight fans riled up and it worked a treat.

If i was asked were do i rate Tszyu all time such and such

this is my response.

I have Tszyu just inside my Top 50 fighters all time.
I rate Tszyu as the second best 140 ever to put the gloves on.

His reign of having a belt from and being the number 1 140 from 1999 to 2005 is a great feat.
Some have Tszyu lower than that on the 140 all time list but Tszyu gets extra points for me for being the longest title reign holder in boxing history at 140 and for being the only man to Unify that division.

Im happy for him to get appluaded but what i hate is fans that never watched him much and say **** like he quit against a crack taker like Phillips and he quit against Hatton at the other end of 35 years of age after fighting only 3 Pro rounds in the last 2 and half years.

He was avioded more than anyone i can remember because he was great risk little reward.
Who knows what would have happened against Dela Hoya or Mosely or even Cotto or PBF but i say Tszyu would give them hell i know that much.
I know were Tszyu stands for me a Great Champ in and especially out of the Ring always a Gentlemen in a sport where most care about money he cared more about the sport itself not getting a bad name.

When he lost to Hatton he was gracious in defeat and said Hatton was clearly beating him even said to Hatton if he ever needs any help with anything dont hesitate to call him.

Great Champ in my books and i will be a happy man to see him in th HOF.

runnynose · Aug 30, 2007

snoopy said:

I think the Hatton loss gets blown out of proportion by so many people. I mean, every now and then, I hear some nimrod say "of course Fighter X would have beat Tszyu, he's a quitter" and/or "he got KO'd by Vince Phillips!" The dude quit in the last fight of his career after going undefeated for a decade and unifying the division, and suddenly that's the consensus for what would happen if he was in a tough fight?
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Agreeing to the unusual (in the UK) fight time he wasn't used to (to suit U.S. TV skeds) probably contributed to Kostya's undoing. Though many times boxers fighting in various foreign time zones have no trouble with a body clock getting out of whack, KT's team was quoted pre-fight as having voiced their concern about this. They probbly knew something we don't.

silvy_chris · Aug 30, 2007

check out boxrec.com
tells u who has fought who
surprised u havnt herd of it

grayggr · Aug 30, 2007

runnynose said:

Agreeing to the unusual (in the UK) fight time he wasn't used to (to suit U.S. TV skeds) probably contributed to Kostya's undoing. Though many times boxers fighting in various foreign time zones have no trouble with a body clock getting out of whack, KT's team was quoted pre-fight as having voiced their concern about this. They probbly knew something we don't.
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It was 2am for Hatton aswell????

MSTR · Aug 30, 2007

BoppaZoo said:

i did most of that to get the USA fight fans riled up and it worked a treat.

If i was asked were do i rate Tszyu all time such and such

this is my response.

I have Tszyu just inside my Top 50 fighters all time.
I rate Tszyu as the second best 140 ever to put the gloves on.

His reign of having a belt from and being the number 1 140 from 1999 to 2005 is a great feat.
Some have Tszyu lower than that on the 140 all time list but Tszyu gets extra points for me for being the longest title reign holder in boxing history at 140 and for being the only man to Unify that division.

Im happy for him to get appluaded but what i hate is fans that never watched him much and say **** like he quit against a crack taker like Phillips and he quit against Hatton at the other end of 35 years of age after fighting only 3 Pro rounds in the last 2 and half years.

He was avioded more than anyone i can remember because he was great risk little reward.
Who knows what would have happened against Dela Hoya or Mosely or even Cotto or PBF but i say Tszyu would give them hell i know that much.
I know were Tszyu stands for me a Great Champ in and especially out of the Ring always a Gentlemen in a sport where most care about money he cared more about the sport itself not getting a bad name.

When he lost to Hatton he was gracious in defeat and said Hatton was clearly beating him even said to Hatton if he ever needs any help with anything dont hesitate to call him.

Great Champ in my books and i will be a happy man to see him in th HOF.
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:good

Great post Boppa. He was an awesome champion and a terrific ambassador for the sport.

:bbb

brownshell · Aug 30, 2007

Now if you consider Kosta a great fighter. Compare his resume to that of PBF's...

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