Who do you think GGG will fight next?

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    More people I respect who actually box don't agree with you
     
  2. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A very feasible 2 point swing the other way gets Canelo a DRAW, which was the official verdict, and some of you are still crying about a "robbery"


    You're shining the best light on GGG's possible scorecards and turn around to accuse others of bias. :clap:
     
  3. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Saunders and Ggg are not the side a cashcow
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Could you repeat that in English please
     
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  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    LOL I was in the ring when you were in diapers
     
  6. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Try Google translation
     
  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Yes and you made friends that's why you can't be Prejudice
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I made many friends thats true & I always liked to see them win. But only if they legitimately won not by receiving Floyd & Canelo type decisions
     
  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Sure
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I googled what you said The reply was . Huh????????????????
     
  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because a fight was close does not at all mean there can't be a clear winner. The rounds can be competitive and close but you can have one guy winning 7 rounds clearly and you can find it very difficult to find 6 or more rounds for the other guy.

    Anyway, Shadow you've shown time and time again you're unable to score objectively and understand what clean punching is. You seem to think slapping with the inside glove, punching elbows/gloves, scuffing punches are clean punches. Please can you just watch it with no bias and we can actually have a debate.

    And also you're appeal to fan scorecards is just nonsense as most fans are casuals who probably think punching gloves and arms is actually good work.

    Canelo didn't win rounds 1-3 and 10-12 either. I gave Canelo 1 based on cleaner jabs landing. Round 2 was at best a draw, round 3 was Golovkin.

    Round 10/11 is frankly where the judges get it completely wrong. Canelo lands some flashy punches in the first 30-40 seconds.. Id probably say around 3-5 clean to big punches in those couple of seconds. Although a lot miss and scuff,
    But the crowd go wild for it. However, not much consideration is taken for the next 2 min or so where Golovkin lands numerous heavy power punching jabs and then also landing an equal amount of big hooks and right hands that go completely unnoticed. Canelo was hanging out of his ass in rounds 10 and 11. Similarly with round 12, I gave it to Canelo, but you could easily argue a draw or GGG. Canelo for the first 45 seconds landed some great power punches altho GGG ate them. Following that GGG landed countless heavy power jabs and landed a few powerful hooks and right hands that Canelo looked hurt by tbh. I just gave the round to Canelo for the initial 45 seconds but tbh I don't think it was enough looking back.

    The closest I could give this fight is 7-5 GGG being super generous to Canelo.
     
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  12. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Dont forget neck twisting punches and sweat splattering
     
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  13. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You prove this with this post.
    For those who don't want to read this, Shadow basically says he doesn't agree with the fan scoring of rounds 4-6 but uses the fan scoring of rounds 2, 3, and 12 to make his argument.

    Note that if you actually read through the cards, it's closer to something like 100 gave the fight to GGG, 20 a draw, and 10 to Canelo. Doesn't seem like a by and large gave it a draw to me.

    EDIT: that site also has Canelo vs Golovkin in the "top controversial fight" category.
     
  14. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Still hung up one 1 extremely close decision that didn't go your way 20 years ago that was run back for a wide UD immediately or is it the other close decision Floyd took at 37 years old against a fighter who was aiming for the back of his head the entire fight that was also run back for a wide UD immediately? Trying to figure out what a "Floyd" type decision is in your mind
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not my argument that the fans had rounds 2, 3 and 12 as Canelo's best rounds, the clearest rounds out of any of the 12 rounds for Canelo. I was responding to a post who argued GGG won rounds 2, 3, and 12. These were pretty much universally seen as Canelo's best rounds, not just on that site of fan scorecards, but in general. So scoring Canelo's best rounds for GGG puts him in the minority.

    I recognize that I'm in the minority for scoring any of rounds 4-6 to Canelo, but to score rounds 2, 3 and 12 for GGG he's in the minority for those rounds too. Though objectively, regardless of fan data, I don't see how anyone could deny how even rounds 4-6 were. Surely, at the very least, you would recognize that those were less clear GGG rounds than rounds 7-9 were.
    Right, but on a round by round basis, the average scores had Canelo with a higher average score in rounds 1-3 & 10-12. (more 10s than 9s for Canelo, more 9s than 10s for GGG) Granted Rounds 10 and 11 were very even, but still Canelo with a small majority. So more people in that fan scoring scored those rounds for Canelo. It just goes to show how you have 6 rounds that more fans said Canelo won than said GGG won, and this goes against the idea that it was a clear GGG win. It obviously wasn't if more people scored 6 rounds for Canelo than GGG.
    Who's arguing it wasn't?