Who do you think is the GOAT at Heavyweight?

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    It's a **** list.

    Ali
    Louis
    Holmes
    Marciano
    Lennox


    The rest.
     
  2. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    And assassin

    ****ers
     
  3. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    No.

    There is no other version. Ali was an outfighter, and Robinson was the archetypal boxer-puncher with a tremendous emphasis on Puncher considering he had arguably the greatest offense ever. Where is Ali's two-fisted power? His savage body attack? Simply because Robinson also circled the ring and worked behind a jab - before Unloading the wrath of God - doesn't make them similar.
     
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    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Many writers back my opinion, Ali is the closest thing SRR as a Heavyweight. I totally agree with what you are saying but you gotta understand what I'm trying to say. If Ali had KO Power in both hands **** I would have him P4P #1.
     
  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Ali had the better KO wins :yep

















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  6. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    Iron is crazy yo.

    He bout to explode with words son.
     
  7. Hands of Iron

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    :rofl

    **** your writers. john garfield is a writer and saw Robinson ringside several times. He agrees with me. It's what he responded to in my signature quote, and that in short, is: Robinson was more Puncher than Boxer. :deal
     
  8. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was actually only looking at the ranking of the first 2...Louis then Ali. My list would look like this.

    Louis
    Ali
    Johnson
    Marciano
    Holmes
    Tyson
    Foreman
    Dempsey
    Lewis/Fraizer....toss up
     
  9. tezel8764

    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Jack Newfield "Muhammad Ali is an homage to Ray Robinson. Watching Ali fight, you saw someone aspiring to be Ray Robinson. He was the Heavyweight Sugar Ray Robinson."


     
  10. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Styles and skill sets were completely different....there's only one Robinson and there's only one Ali.
     
  11. tezel8764

    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    You cannot deny he was greatly influenced by Ray though.

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  12. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No question! A lot of fighters were "influenced" by the greatness of Robinson.....but Ali had a style all his own.....as did Robinson. Ali didn't try to be Ray as a boxer.....he just aspired to be as great as Ray....which no one has been able to accomplish.
     
  13. Hands of Iron

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    You disingenuous little ****.
     
  14. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You honestly believe that a fighter who weighed 205 lbs in his prime, got damn near KO'd by Henry Cooper, couldnt stop the 6'5, 4 loss Earnie Terrell after he was blind in one eye due to thumbing him, got "Smoked" by the 205 lb Frazier, and got his jaw busted by Kenny Norton could actually stay in the ring with today's super heavies? You really believe that? They would have to make the ropes higher to keep him out of peoples laps at ringside.


    I need to do my homework? Why did the new era of "big" heavyweights like Liston and then Ali due away with the 188 lb. heavyweight era? Why did Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis due away with the era of "big" heavyweights? Could it be because the sport evolves?


    Dont get me wrong. Im not saying Ali COULDNT beat Lewis or the Klitschkos...Im saying he couldnt beat SAM PETER.
    Clearly, you have a good knowledge of the boxing game. Unfortunately, it seems as if your head is shoved so far up Cassius' ass you cant see what the **** you are looking at. Im not sure if it is just a case of no common sense, extreme nut huggery, or mild ******ation. Dont forget your parting gift...
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  15. Peril

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    No Mike Tyson on the list...hmmmm