Who has fought the better fighter J.TAYLOR or CALZAGHI?

No, you mentioned him because you don't know **** about the subject at hand, and hence you should probably refrain from commenting. That way you don't look like an ignorant ****

Manfredo isn't anywhere near his list of best opponents. You like to include him to boost your point his resume his poor, my point is that he shouldn't be on there, and it's doing some very good fighters a disservice

As for the other guy - no Kelly Pavlik is not elite. He WILL be found out, because he has serious flaws. Unlike, say Kessler

 

haha,pavlik is not an elite fighter at the minute he has only proven himself to be B+,his skills certainly don't warrant him a place as an A fighter and h2h he is lightyears behind kessler.
don't place so much emphasis on resume my friend,watch boxers fight their top level of oopostion and you will see that where pavlik struggles, kessler excels and of course joe calzaghe is in fact supernatural.

 

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Opinions are opinions and you are entitled to yours. Disregarding the fact that you don't know what you are talking about.

 

Did you know that Zab Judah KOed Spinks in 9 and that Spinks barely got by Karmazin, a guy who generally can't deal with speed. Spinks is nothing in terms of top notch skills, all he has is a tricky style to beat because he's so tenative and has good speed, but tricky for Welter's and LightMiddle's, I'd tip Forrest even to take his head off.

Any legit top MW would seriously take his head off early, like Jermain was supposed to do in fact.

But the reason why he didn't is that a quick boxer with defence is very difficult for Taylor, that's why a guy like Bute, Mundine and the lot at 168 would tool him bad.

 

His resume is better than Taylor's.:yep

 

When people try to talk like they are an expert on the subject, despite displaying such overt ignorance you'll find people get pissed off. But hey, no hard feelings, perhaps you should go and watch some Joe Calzaghe fights against some of the guys you havn't heard of. That way you'll be in a better position to comment, and I trust you'll almost certainly remove Manfredo from your lists

 

I agree. Taylor has fought way better opposition. He has more recognizable names on his record. Joppy, Hopkins, Wright, Ouma, Spinks, and Pavlik. Even though Ouma and Spinks are natural 154 pounders they are still bigger names than most of the opposition Joe has fought up till now. All Joe has is Jeff Lacy (who was overrated) Bika (simply cause now his name is a little bigger off that contender crap) and kessler (who didn't have much experience with good opposition) So taylor has fought way better guys hands down. Anyone who disagrees don't know NOTHING about boxing.

 

Truth being you know jack about the european scene.:deal

 

And natural SMW 2nd croppers like Sheika, Brewer and others are better wins to a natural SMW than a small LMW 2nd cropper like Kassim Ouma, who is nothing resembling a top fighter, he's not a test for any serious top fighter.

Look how Karmazin easily handled him, is Karmazin anything more than a top 5 LMW? I think he's top 5 in ability, despite the recent loss, sure.

But you listed out Ouma like it's a merit for Taylor, it's nothing and he performed very poor on top of it. On my resume judging, I also judge how fights are won, there is two strikes against Ouma and Spinks fights in poor opponents for a MW and poor performances.

Calzaghe easily handled Sheika and Brewer, 2nd crop natural SMW's, those are better wins than either Ouma or Spinks at 160 pounds.

Then let's take it a step up, Wright at 160 and a past it Hopkins are not better fighters than Kessler at 168.

Who's fought better what overall? This is the bull**** I'm talking about.

 

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yea good un mate,can you please back your comment upwith some form of argument,anyone who believes that pavlik has A class skills is frankly mislead by the american hype machine,he has A* power with B- skills.

the taylor v calzaghe argument is very broad and alot has to be taken into consideration but if we look at how the fighters have dealt with their big fights it will perhaps give you a better indication.calzaghe has struggled very rarely and reid was his only 'real' struggle on his resume,otherwise he has looked untouchable except for bika who frankly makes anyone look bad,while if we look at taylors wins,he ahs two very debatable wins over bhop,followed by an unconvincing performance against winky,subsequently followed by two fights against natural 154lbers where he looked quite average.

 

it will be about the matter of victory,its very debatable whether taylor actually won those fights and along with the fact he looked so poor subsequent to those victories,however if calzaghe goes out there and dominates bhop to a wide UD or tko/ko it says alot.

 

They aren't better wins than Kessler, because Hopkins is FAR from prime, not suggesting that Kessler is better than a prime one, but the past it ****ing Hopkins that we have NOW.

Wright at 160 has proven nothing, give me a break. Wright's one of the msot overrated fighters in the sport and I can't wait until he signs to fight any young MW and gets KTFO finally.

I give Taylor no credit, he didn't beat Hopkins decisively.

And if you haven't paid attention, I'm going to give Joe limited credit only if he obliterates Hopkins, a decision win doesn't do anything for me, even if it's every round 120-108, I need a dominating performance leading to a stoppage to issue credit to Joe.

 

Amsterdam and TFFP,

You guys should really be banned from discussing anything related to Calzaghe because you bring ZERO objectivity to the table when it comes to discussing him.