Miguel Cotto Shane Mosley Paul Williams Antonio Margarito were all more worthy than Ricky Hatton and Carlos Baldomir.
I think you can scratch Paul Williams from this list cuz it's been too long for him since he's been a 147. Floyd would never fight him. Too many angles.
Paul Williams campaigned at 147lbs for a while, when Mayweather was active. I'm just saying Williams has more credibility than Carlos Baldomir, so why not? The belts mean nothing when you have to beat a C level fighter in order to attain them. Let's be real.
Rick Hatton - p4p King at JWW accepted Baldomir - Linear welter champ Mosley turned own a fight but since then campaigned at 154 and then lost to Cotto before beating a Marg who had just been caught cheating right before the fight. Great prep for a fight. Paul Williams - at the time one win over Marg and a win and loss against Quintana Cotto - I think after the Hatton fight it was his turn but Mayweather retired. However, with Arum and Floyd sitting at the table we've seen with Manny the amount of heat that brings. But yeah Cotto deserves a shot due to his resume Marg - shouldnt even comment on him. But after beating the linear champ in Baldo you can fight Marg who has beat Cintron and has a win over Clottey who had to quit due to injury OR OSCAR DE LA HOYA. The sports Golden Boy who you have chased for years through the weight. After that Marg looses to Williams and then is later found loading his gloves. What a clear cut picture that was at the time. Yep, Floyd just avoided all these fighters who at the time were all clearly elite and all had HOF records. Give me a break.
Don't talk to be about Baldomir being the linear champion. It's irrelevant to my point. Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Mosley, and a host of other top 10 rated Welterweights are much better fighters than Carlos Baldomir. Like I said, the belts don't mean **** anymore. You have jokers like Edwin Valero already laying claim to being a two weight world champion and he hasn't fought anyone. Baldomir wouldn't even beat Clottey, Berto, or Cintron - and I didn't even list them. Get off Floyd's nutsack and stop feeding me crap I already know.
: His best fights were @w135 and. He has yet to fight the cream of the crop @140 and up. He continues to act like he is at the lower weights as evidence in his last two fights.
Well you obviously dont know that when he thought Baldo, the only welter even close to being worth a damn at that point was Marg who had beat Cintron and a questionable win over Clottey. Cotto was at 140, Mosley at 154, the rest were no where in sight. Bringing Up Berto like he was really a contender. Didnt he just struggle against Collazo. Atleast he had beat Judah, the CHAMP in belt and name. What had the rest of the fighters done. After that he only had two fights before retiring with one fight against Hoya
Mayweahter fought Baldomir on 11/4/2006. At the time Williams was completly unproven with his best win being against a shot Sharmba mitchell who was above his best weight. A win over him would have meant less than nothing at the time as it would have been dismissed as floyd exposing a hype job. Cotto was still at 140 as his first fight at 147 wasn't until 12-2-2006. THis would have just been dismissed as FLoyd cherry picking a smaller guy since Cotto had not once fought at welter. Not to mention that at the time Cotto was using the "I'll fight whoever my promoter tells me to" excuse and wanted no part of floyd. At the time Mosley was considered shot. It wasn't until after the Collazo, Mayorga and most of all the Margarito wins that people started to see that he still had a lot of fight left in him. A win over Mosley at the time would have been seen as a win over a shot fighter much like his win over Oscar. The only one you can make a decent argument for at the time is Margarito and with Baldomir coming off back to back wins over Judah and Gatti I don't see how you can say that Margo was a much better choice. All that being said, right now Mosley has proven that he still has something left and he has earned a shot. I'd like to see him get it, but at the time the Baldomir fight made the most sense IMO
The fight was good, now bigger fights are soon to come, for a come back this isn't a bad fight. Didn't Trinidad fight Mayorga coming up TWO divisons from Welter to Middle and also coming off a loss to Spinks?, I don't see any clowning about that.
I don't mind him for fighting Marquez after that long time off, it was actually Mayweather's bull**** "retirement" bothered me more than his actual choice of opposition. At 140, I would've preferred him to fight Tszyu or Hatton, but I don't really blame him that the fights didn't happen. Tszyu was inactive when PBF moved up and fought in two straight eliminators, and they were on rival networks which makes it really hard to materialize. Tszyu fought Mitchell and then got a huge payday against Hatton. Hatton's team wanted to build a name in the states first. At 147, the Mitchell fight was blah, probably to get used to Mayweather at a higher weight and against a lefty. It was supposed to be Judah in November of that year, but Top Rank won the bid for Rahman-V.Klitschko and wanted that to take place, and delayed PBF-Judah. Then Judah lost. A Margarito fight would've been better, but I won't complain too much over fights with Judah and recognized champ Baldomir. DLH at 154 and a Hatton fight were fine, too. However, after beating Hatton, that were other good fights to be made at WW. A fight with Cotto was what the boxing fans wanted to see. Or Mosley, another top WW who fought a close one with Cotto, would've been good too. Instead, he negotiated a bull**** rematch with DLH and then "retired". Yeah yeah, I understand why anyone would go for the big money, and understand how him and Arum hate each other. But as a fan, am I supposed to be happy about it? Still, there's time. Pacquiao, Cotto, or Mosley are all great fights to be made and I think we'll get at least one of those fights in the next few months.
but hatton was always going to get the floyd fight before williams got a sniff-in because of hatton's mainstream popularity and his style of fighting.
Well, I think Simms is the #1 fighter at 154 lbs., because when DLH was super champion at 154 he decided to fight Mosley and lost, instead of fighting his mandatory with Simms, Now, Mosley is Super Champion and he ask for special exception from the WBA to unified the WBA, WBC and Wrights IBF title, instead of facing Simms, but both Mosley and Winky agreed that the winner would face Simms withen 90 days, but after Winky won the fight he to opted not to fight Simms as agreed, but instead choose to ignore the agreement and request to the WBA to have a rematch with Mosley, which I must add is a direct violation, because in the WBA by laws, there is no rematch clause in super championship fights, but beside that, both Mosley and Winky agreed to fight Simms who was the mandatory challenger at that time. But, I said all this to say that if all these so called future hall of famer's avoided Simms then he must be the best guy in the division with out name recognition.
The past is in the past. We're in the here and now. Floyd lays claim to the P4P throne yet he's not even champion in his own division. He needs to fight Sugar Shane Mosley or go back into retirement.
yer, these guys. there's still time for redemption though. However, Floyd seems content to play a game with people/journalists/press conferences, where he smirks his way from one fight to the next. It's like he knows he's a really good boxer, but rubs people's face in it by not fighting who people want him to fight.