Who was better against Lemieux? GGG or Saunders?

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  1. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Both dominant using different methods. Lemieux was made to order for Saunders stylistically. If you stand in front of him you're in trouble, if you're capable of moving well he just cannot deal with that at all.
     
  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    This whole post is confusing.

    Stoppage was fine and he was warned for the late punch on the floor, though really should have had a point deducted. GGG's gameplan was to work begin the jab, a punch which is quite widely regarded as his most used and most effective. He's done this previously.

    Saunders had a cold lol? OK. He magically gets the KO because the ring is in a different country? OK.
     
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  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    GGG took his soul first and used only his jab to shut him down. He utterly exposed DL what he is; totally one dimensional. BJS just reinforced that opinion.
     
  4. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure Lemieux is made for anyone with top level outside boxing skill... but we have to give Saunders props for dominating Lemieux more thoroughly and more impressively than Golovkin did! Golovkin jabbed Lemieux because he respected his power. But he only 'solidly' outboxed him, it was slow-paced, he didn't show much variety, and Lemieux loomed as more of threat than he should've for several rounds. While Saunders showed incredible movement and angles, landed in combos and with laser-like accuracy, and had Lemieux looking completely clueless and like he was in quick sand. Saunders was better! In fact Saunders showed the kind of skills that will handily outbox Golovkin too, mark my words if happens!
     
  5. stormy

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    You forget that GGG can cut off the ring whereas Lemux had no intention of doing so. I think GGG will have a whole new game plan for fighters who prefer to win a fight by not getting into a fight That canelo fight was what he needed to get him on track again. And that spells all sorts of trouble for both Canelo and BJS
     
  6. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course GGG won't be standing still and looking at Saunders like Lemieux did, he'll be coming with a more efficient attack, so Saunders will have to be more focused and bring more against him to hit and move and outbox him... but he's still going to do it. GGG couldn't cut off the ring too well against the only two elite skilled boxers he's faced in Jacobs and Canelo. GGG's weakness is lateral movement, and that's what Saunders has more than any middleweight. Saunders won't be standing in front of GGG close to as much as Jacobs and Canelo did in troubling Golovkin plenty, so cutting off the ring against Saunders will be a massive task for him. GGG will be befuddled and reduced to reaching and lunging for Saunders.
     
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  7. Robney

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    Boxing wise (the game of boxing) Saunders peobably did marginally better. Fighting wise, there's no comparison. GGG beat the crap out of him.
     
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  8. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GGG has the better win- he gave the fans what they wanted to see and got the KO.

    BJS has Lemieux out on his feet in the 8th, didn’t press for a KO (which was there), and then he took the 9th off and has a rest. Finally he cruises to a UD.

    With all due respect to BJS he could have tried harder than that.
     
  9. Pretty Boy Floyd

    Pretty Boy Floyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did you even watch the fight? Lemieux was hurt twice but bjs didn't go for the kill on behalf of instructions from his corner. Saunders could 100% have stopped lemieux.
     
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  10. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Saunders is not a knockout puncher. He stunned Lemieux through accumulation of punches and timing. Not saying this to rebutt you, but others who say Saunders is a hard puncher. He has to really wind guys up right to stop them.
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Saunders was more of a comprehensive boxing lesson.
    Golovkin beat him up and stopped him.
    Who did better is subjective and based on more of what
    you want to see happen in a fight. Both showed that David
    is near neither of their levels.
     
  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I would rather get dropped and count the sky lights VS made to look foolish for 36 minuets
     
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Going 12 rounds with someone you have boxed the ears out of and hurt in multiple rounds but not going for the kill is less of a win than someone who smells blood and doing the right thing and KOkng the guy.

    A boxer that clearly is light years ahead of his opponent in skills and can hurt the other guy, should go for the KO, in my opinion.
     
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  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. GGG had Lemieux at mercy most of the fight and ended it as soon as he wanted to.
     
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  15. ATG22

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    I fast forwarded the last three rounds, not gonna lie.

    That stoppage wasn’t legit? He crumbled in pain and looked to the ref as he stumbled back. Yeah, he looked great.

    And IIRC, he was only credited with one KD and he was already down when GGG hit him with a questionable shot when his knee was down (but the red didn’t get in there to send GGG to neutral corner). I don’t remember a shot after the bell that he was credited with a knockdown for.