Who was better - Peter Jackson or James Corbett?

Just found this on Killen

Oct 1886 -Killen challenged any man in the world to a match
(except [url]John L. Sullivan[/url]) for any amount of money

And this on Godfrey.
May 14 1888 -Sullivan agreed to meet [url]George Godfrey[/url] in a bout;
[url]Godfrey[/url] said he was not prepared to fight then
but would at a later date.
Joe Goddard's career did not begin until April1889. The year Sullivan fought Kilrain for the Championship of America,after this fight Sullivan retired until1892 when he came back to fight Corbett so I think the time scale puts Goddard out of the running as a credible challenger for John L.Sullivan could have fought Jackson after Jackson's big win over Godfrey for the Colored title,but I think Kilrain was the standout opponent for him then.

 

Ether Jackson or Goddard would travel to the UK where Sullivan was, and both parties tried to make the fight. The press mentioned it. As mentioned Sullivan had a recent fight in the UK. Jackson fought in the UK for famous fight with Slavin. Richard K Fox tired to get Slavin in the ring with Sullivan. In the USA! Sullivan refused. Look up Slavin. He beat the guys that Sullivan did Maculiffe, and Kilrain more impressively than Sullivan did. He also beat Mick Dooley. He was undefeated minus a fight where he had to KO his man to win up to the year Sullivan lost to Peter Jackson in good fight. Again the 3 best called out Sullivan pre Corbett and he had time to meet the.Sullivan had the same excuse for them, and the old excuse that he would not travel to Australia and the UK, two places where he had fights. He would not fight Slavin in the USA and " trashed his belt " rather than meet him. Notice a pattern?

Do look up Killen, he was decent.

Which papers said they would have given Sullivan the decision over Cardiff? He was lucky to get a draw. Two papers said Cardiff deserved the decision.

 

@ Janitor and anyone interested in Sullivan post Corbett 1892. This link shown by Tonto62 is excellent! It shows Sullivan wasn't retried sitting on a chair, he was in the ring and had scheduled fights and fighting many 3 round exhibitions post 1892. So much he gave up ring with the defeat to Corbett.

[url]http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/sully.htm[/url]

And
1891

Jul -Sullivan toured Hawaii and Australia but did not
have any official bouts; He possibly had some
exhibitions with Jack Ashton.

>>> Sullivan in Australia but no time for Jackson or Goddard? Stop with the excuse that Sullivan could not meet them in Australia, the UK, or the USA. He could IF he was willing.

 

Thanks for your reply,I'll get back to you.
NB I don't have a dog in this fight.

 

I think Peter Jackson …. because i enjoyed Lord of the Rings

 

Looks like Sullivan was the referee for Godfrey's fight with Charles Hadley for the Colored HW Championship of the World in 1883, so surely they were on good terms. Sullivan was ref in other of Godrey's bouts in 1889.

 

I think Jackson, too, but I'm by no means certain of it. Jackson probably had the better of their 61 round draw, but I'm sure Corbett improved more after that than Jackson did. If I tried a little, I could probably convince myself that Corbett was better, overall, or at least that it's ABOUT even between the two (which may be the best answer possible).

 

I have changed opinion on this multiple times, Jackson I think had the style to beat Corbett but suffered against all out rough, agressive battlers, ie Fallon, Godard, Lambert, Lynch, Farnan but styles make fights. Corbett himself found Sharkey a handful, overall maybe I rate Corbett, head-to-head at their best, Jackson. BTW a load of posters on here that don't seem to understand the 1880 era or timeline.

 

I see that you feel my pain!

 

The careers of Lennox Lewis and Wladamir Klitschko overlapped!

Let that sink in.

Lewis's had a few months when he could have fought the next great champion, but he chose easier opposition, and that taints his legacy forever!

See how ridiculous this all sounds?

 

Which does not apply to you! Do you want deny that you used at least 5 different accounts here and the current one was already active when the previous 4?

Someone who is neutral or has even sympathies for you asked you here once, why you have arguments with almost half of the members of this community. It seems like you have a talent to create anger by many people/ users here, which appears to be your main target.

 

LOL, so THIS is the Hippo of which you spoke?

All I can say is “certifiable” and I SURE DON’T mean the Hippo whom I shall now call Harry - Harry would do better subbing in for “you know who”, “you know who” being a watcher of evacuating animals.

So instead of “evidence” this is what “he” looks up instead. He can’t prove loaded gloves so he has to provide us with a “loaded” Hippo instead. High brow, indeed! LOL.

 

We are feeding a fool.It's non productive but almost compulsive ,like picking at a scab we know would be left better alone.
I think its the morbid curiosity about what the next outlandish response will be.
Got to go now and type in your reply.lol

 

Jackson. More impressive resume, and he also got the better of Corbett for the first 26 rounds of their fight with a bruised ankle. Jackson has a good case for being the best heavyweight before Louis

 

They were close! In a head to head sense, if they could have fought seven times, after their draw, I think Corbett's developed boxer's style would have been more troublesome for Peter Jackson's brand of boxer-puncher's style, than the reverse. I would go with Gentleman Jim to win at least four of those seven fantasy encounters. Great thread! This is a match up that my Grandfather and I discussed a few times, on opposite sides, by the way. I surely do miss those discussions with the big guy!