Mayweather was number 3 or 4 prior to Mayweather vs. JMM fight and after defeating JMM, he climbed up to number2 now. So you mean to say that they should not have allowed that to happen, as you are opposed to giving PFP on catchweight?
Honestly, Mayweather could've beat his Uncle Roger coming out of retirement and they would've made him number 2 to hype a fight with Pac. My point in that particular discussion wasn't P4P though, it was championships, and i don't see y Pac's top WW wen he won a title that was vacant before Cotto "won" it and den Pac won it not at WW but a catchweight. Mosley beat a real WW(a cheater at that) to win his title and he's being considered number 2 or 3 as a WW when he has a belt(which eliminates Floyd as top WW in my opinion) and fought at 147 not a catchweight.
You could twist it around as much as you like it and would get several scenarios. The funny thing with the welterweight division is that during Mayweather's absence, the following thing happened : A beat B, then B beat C, but the weird thing is C beat A. Cotto beat Mosley, then Margarito Beat Cotto, then Mosley beat Margarito. Put into equations the plaster of paris, the old age, and all other excuses, then the next question is boggling. So who is actually the top dog at Welterweight? You put too much weight on the catchweight when that catchweight is actually closer to Cotto's weight than Pac's weight. Besides Cotto himself never blamed or made the weight an excuse,. Are we making excuses for mosley now?
Mosley is!!! Even if you use your lil ABC theory, lets compare the results of those matches. Mosley-Cotto a none spectualar desicion, Cotto-Margo questionable TKO, Mosley-Margo clear TKO. Mosley is the man at WW because he won the title at WW which Pac didn't. And you can say the catchweight had nothing to do with it, when it does. Even if it was closer to Miguels weight you have to realize Cotto had to dehydrate and diet to lose that weight more den he would to make 147. Pac was eating just fine and lifting weights gaining muscle. There's an energy advantage in Pac's favor, and Cotto didn't blame it but maybe him going up to 154 says something.
I know thanks for restating what you put in bold moron. and yea i saw the fight more den once actually. but i thank you for re-enforcing my point.
The poll options are all types of messed up. If Mayweather wins and Pac wins? There is a case for a tie. Mayweather-Manny, edge Mayweather. If Mayweather wins and Pac loses? Mayweather If Mayweather loses and Pac wins? There is again a case for a tie. Mosley-Manny, edge Manny. I don't see how Manny can come out the sole holder of #1P4P when Mosley has equal recent accomplishments at WW to Manny. Pac is on a collision course with the winner of the Mayweather-Mosley fight. The only other respectable option would be Berto or to quit competing at WW.
In my opinion he had to fight both the loser and the winner of SSM-FMJ. I mean he'll probably keep his spot honestly(I don't think he should.) Also I know the choices are messed up. They were bias to see how many *******s and floydfags would stuff the ballot but not support their reasoning with a comment. I voted Mosley because beating Mayweather is just gonna out shine Pac's Win, Mayweather beating Mosley will too but not as much as it being vice versa. Pac will probably keep his spot though, just because the Ring Magazine will want the winner of SSM-FMJ to beat him for the #1 spot.
Using your own logic, Pac is the PFP number one because when comparing their two common opponents, namely Hatton and ODLH, Pac won his fight more dominantly. BTW, Cotto going up to 154 has nothing to do with whether he can make it at 147 anymore. He wants to gain a belt in another division.
You're right clearly stating Hatton is a JWW was wrong. I'm so dumb for not knowing that that's how Pac got the JWW title. I totally shouldn't have said that. Eventhough my entire point was Pac's a JWW not a WW
I think if Mosley wins it will make it a tie. Taking down Mayweather would be huge, but Cotto still did beat him and Manny destroyed Cotto. Manny-Mosley tied for P4P. Advantage Manny. There would still be a good for Manny against the loser, but at that point, especially if it is close, Manny is frozen out. That could be a trilogy. You MUST give Mayweather a rematch. Mayweather MUST give a tie breaker. Manny is fighting Berto, Bradley, or heaven help him Williams.
When did Mosley fight Hatton? Thats right...NEVER!! You're so busy hating on Floyd(who's name wasn't even mention in the quote you used) that you can't even pay attention to what I said multiple times in that quote. MOSLEY IS THE TOP WW, not P4P, I know this!! Manny is the top P4P, but IMO he is not the #1 WW!!!(Top JWW IMO) Idk if you knew this, but there's a big difference between being the top P4P and the top WW and Manny is(for now atleast) top P4P but he isn't top WW in my eyes.
If Manny is tied with Mosley even if Manny has the advantage. Does Mosley become number 1 soley if he beats Floyd again and Manny beats Berto? (Williams is a whole different story to tell.)
Nah. I think that would need to be settled with a tie breaker. Still Manny would have the edge though. You are right too. Williams is another story. He needs to make WW, look good doing it, and somehow prove he can get more than family members into the stands and to buy PPV! :yep