Who's better: Wlad or Vitali?

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  1. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vitali early years but last few years IMO Wlad has got his style in order and he will stop Haye to take the top spot once and for all :deal
     
  2. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad has more power
    Wlad is more athletic
    Wlad has a better jab
    Wlad has a better resume

    Vitali has a better chin
    Vitali has much better stamina
    Vitali is more awkward

    Wlad is a better champion and will rank much higher than Vitali. Vitali is likely the better h2h fighter, but unfortuneately was plagued by injuries and lost the biggest fights in his life. Wlad on the other hand has won all his big fights.

    Advantage Wlad
     
  3. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    vitali by a slight margin.
     
  4. Saku

    Saku We Are All One Full Member

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    Yeah Vitali hates Wlad!
    :patsch Are you that dumb?:-(
     
  5. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    With Emanuel Steward´s help Wlad improves his style.
     
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    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    David Haye
     
  7. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do not say that! But Vitali does overprotect his brother and he does not help him when he wants to work with Steward.

    Parents love the children but you have to give your children the chance to become adult people, make own falts and so on. That is what i mean.

    To protect children too much means you do not give them the chance to make the own experience. This has nothing to do with hate. In this case Vitali behaves like a mother who wants to overprotect his son! This is my opinion. I do not know why he acts like this.

    Look at the Chambers fight, how Steward reacts and what Vitali wants.

    IMO one of Wlad´s best fights with Steward is Castillo, no Vitali in the corner, only Emanuel Steward who knows what Wlad can do and what not and Steward does not overprotect Wladimir.

    In the darkest hours of his career, Vitali does not help his brother, it was Emanuel Steward who helps Wladimir to grow up and to become Champion again. In 2005 Vitali retired forever (so he becomes Emeritus Champion) and Wladimir was alone. He grows up again and when he was Champion again, Vitali comes back....

    To overprotect your brother or your children, can be the same as paternalism!

    Once and for all i do not hate Vitali. But i have my own opinion on the two brothers. For me the Klitschko brothers are different persons, with very different characters.

    I am a Fan of Wladimir Klitschko.
     
  8. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali is better
     
  9. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    VK:

    Chin
    Stamina
    Fighting Ability
    Workrate
    Durability


    WALDO:

    Power
    Boxing Ability
    Jab
    Hugging Ability
     
  10. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    Wlad has better:
    Technique
    Footwork
    Conditioning
    One punch KO power
    Jab, Cross, Hook, Uppercut
    Resume
    Trainer

    Vitali has better:
    Chin
    Work rate
    Pressure style, leads to TKOs by punch accumulation
    Overhand right
    Quicker reflexes
    Less predictable due to herky jerky awkward, hands down defense
    Counter punching
     
  11. rorik_bender

    rorik_bender Bellhop. Full Member

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    If it wasn't for Vitaly we would never hear of Wlad. He drag him into boxing and helped him to get back after loses.
     
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    Wlad is a better boxer
    Vitali is a better fighter

    h2h vitali kills wlad
     
  13. Saku

    Saku We Are All One Full Member

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    You have your own opinion, you are a fan of Wlad and you think he is better than Vitali fair enough, but still show me any proof that Vitali refused to let Wlad do his rematch against Sanders and where he is working against Wlad in the corner by "overprotecting" him?

    For the question who is better in my opinion Wlad is the more athlete boxer, and Vitali being the better natural fighter, but the mentality of the two brothers make the difference as Vitali does not fear his opponents.
    While Steward needs to tell Wlad what to do next, Sdunek just needs to motivate Vitali.
    Wlad has the better resume though.
     
  14. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sdunek can not tell what to do because he does not know it.

    Question: Vitali does not fear his opponents whereas in your opinion Wlad does.

    So why do you think it?

    Vitali never wants to rematch Byrd for example. Vitali fought against Lewis much better after the fight was stopped than during the fight.

    Vitali was cut very badly in round 3 from punches!!! It was obvious that the fight will be stopped in 2 or 3 rounds. But Vitali does not go after Lewis like Hagler does against Hearns. Vitali went after Lewis after the fight was stopped not during the fight.

    IMO the mythos of the better fighter is not more than a "mythos".

    I know that Wladimir wants the Sanders rematch from a russian trainer who was closed to Universum.

    Wladimir grows up after he tells his brother to be not part of the training camp. And this shows to me that it is difficult for a trainer to work with Wladimir when Vitali is part of the team. He cannot let Wlad do his own game and i call this overprotection. For example he does not want Wladimir to go for the KO against Chambers. He told Wlad not to listen to Steward after Manny tells Wlad to go for the knockout. I call this overprotection! It was obvious that Chambers could not hurt Wlad so Manny gave the right advice at the right time!
     
  15. BlackWall

    BlackWall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali schools Wlad and KO him inside 8 rounds! :deal

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    Lewis picks Vitali as being better than Wladimir

    “Well, obviously the older one [Vitali] is always the better one, I say. Plus, he’s the most awkward in my books. He’s very long and lanky, and you know he uses that long reach and his height very well. He also throws a good combination punching, and he knows how to keep you off balance, so definitely Vitali.”