I didn't believe Joe Calzaghe lost to Hopkins. Joe outworked and outlanded Bernard. That's the differerence. #1 Joe Calzaghe #2 Juan Manuel Marquez #3 Manny Pacquiao
Originally Posted by selfkill I can't rank a man P4P #1 if he lost twice to his toughest opposition (Juan Manuel Marquez). Coming from a veteran poster like you, u still "cry" till now. Give the Pacman his due, he did more than enough to prove he is no 1 POUND 4 POUND as of the moment.
I didnt realise what "you believe" had any reflection on the decision... I thought Joe lost to Bika & 43yr old BHop so IMO he should be outside the top 20 right now. Cotto lost to an aged Mosley so he should be outside the top 10 right now. JMM lost to Pac*2 and Chris John and MAB too, he shouldnt be in the top 10. All this "I believe" is BS. The HBO crew thought MAB beat JMM but do they keep on harping on about that? Stick to facts, it makes things alot easier to judge. All close fights are gonna have controversy, certain % of people disagreeing with the rest.
a fight with jmm win or lose is better than a fight with a 43 yr old hopkins. JMM is currently best counterpuncher in boxing
Manny pac this is a no brainer. Im moving Cotto to # 2 if he thrashes Margo. HE HE HE now that would be a total nuthugging move of which im incapable but I would have to survey the field and see if he is deserving and only if he brutally quickly dispatches Margo easily. I mean were does Cotto go if he just Blasts Margo.
You do realise a P4P list can be constructed with alsorts of different criteria. H2H Ability, Resume, or even based purely on individual skills. This is "MY" P4P list, and therefore if I saw Pacman lose twice, then he won't be number 1 on "MY" p4p list.
i had cotto at #4 just a notch below of my #3 marquez. if he demolishes margarito, i would put him at #2 or maybe #1. if he wins a decision, i would bump him over marquez. but of course, marquez can also stay at #3 if he pounced casamayor into retirement.