Why All The Jones Jr Haters

The speed was always going to go, as he aged. Also, what about the stamina issue? Roy's always had poor stamina. I believe the biggest advantage with roids, is the stamina boost. So if he was definately roiding, why was he always knackered mid fight?

 

Yeah but most of the so called nobodies, were either mandortaries, World Champions, or future World Champions. Gonzalez, the great mexican road sweeper. He was absolute garbage, but went onto beat DM. That's just one example. He also tried to cherry pick Lewis.

 

Lou Del Valle had a 68% KO ratio going into the fight with Jones and had stopped 4 of his last 5 opponents.

 

Fighting heart? ******! Bet you've never been near a boxing gym in your life!

 

You mad bro?

Don't hate me, hate the facts :deal

 

DM was clearly shot and Gonzalez won a highly disputed SD. Jones never tried to make a fight with Lewis. You can believe all the BS from Roid and his people that you want, but there is no nonbiased source that will say that that Glass Jawed Joke was ever serious about making any of the fights fans wanted to see. There is a reason that instead of talking about how he performed in those fights, nuthuggers like you are left discussing how he "coulda, woulda, shoulda" done.

He never stopped anybody of note, i.e., he had no power and Jones never had a Chin.

Jones is and was a front-runner and a Glass Jawed Fraud. How many times do you have to see him fold under pressure and get violently KOed before you realize this?

 

True I suppose.

 

I'm not going to go through the whole steroid issue again. We've made your points, and yours is a good one. However, I just want your take on the stamina issue. As I said, I know a bodybuilder who used to take them. Now, I'm no expert, and you two are telling me that they give you a huge stamina boost. That's fine. But as I've said earlier, if Roy was roiding, why did he always have stamina issues? If that's the main benefit, why was he always backing onto the ropes for a breather? What do you reckon?

You say nothing was brought up again because..... But why didn't the other Governing Bodies even take an interest, when Roy represented them. Do you think it was all swept under the carpet? I'm not being funny mate, it's a genuine question. What do you think?

There's no one more frustrated than me, that some of the fights you mentioned earlier never came off. I admit he didn't fancy certain fights. He didn't want Nunn and Collins. But DM couldn't get made. I honestly believe he wanted Benn. I honestly believe he would have fought Gerald if it wasn't for the terrible tradgedy. Eubank openly admitted he didn't want to go to the U.S. Joe didn't go until it was too late in the day. The Hopkins one should have gone ahead. It should have been 60 to the winner, 40 to the loser. But Roy stuck to his guns, and I don't blame him. As I said the other day, Do you think Hop would have given Roy 50/50 if the roles had been reversed? You know the answer to that question.

He did persue Lewis and Tyson. You've seen the quotes from everyone. Yes you can say, but he didn't, but it was obvious that he did make a genuine effort. If Lennox had've beaten Vitali more convincing without a lot of trouble, the fight would of happened. I only ever compare Roy to the fab Four ability wise. Spinks was a great light heavy, and I think Larry Holmes was one of the most underrated fighters of all time. I think he'd beat both of the K brothers.

Regarding Johnson, I think Roy was ill that night, as I've said, Roy didn't even look like winning a round. Johnson was never that good, to be able to win every round. I think any decent fighter had've put Roy to sleep that night. I told you what the Doctors said at the time. It was a temple shot, but it wasn't even that hard, and it was out for about 5 mins. Pre Ruiz, Glen would have been happy to win a round. Roy went 4 straight fights without losing a round. He scored a TKO of Woods and then embarrassed him, he embarrassed Gonzalez, who beat DM, he scored a shutout against Ruiz, he beat Tarver, with nothing left for the last 4 rounds, but when he fights Glen, he's not able to win a single round. How does that work?

I think you should have another look at that fight. I think you're giving Glen way too much credit. Roy looked truely awful that night. You could tell he wasn't right as soon as he got into the ring. Glen was just in the right place at the right time. Look at the trouble he had with Woods, and that was a few years after Roy had played with him.

Good debate.

regards, Loudon.

 

You have absolutely no knowledge of the subject at hand. None.

 

if you begrudge a light middle weight fighter for ducking an ATG top five heavyweight like Lewis, then you are clutching at straws.YOu have simply NO argument.

Its like saying Sugar Ray Leonard didnt make try to make a fight with Evander Holyfield.

 

The mandatory excuse was absolutely pathetic. Can you imagine what Floyd would do if the WBC ordered him to fight some utter ****ing nobody?

Roy's excuse of "I have to fight this stiff or they'll take my (insert paper title) Larry!" was one of the most shameful images of his disgraceful career.

 

You're not going to get anywhere with that one. He also thinks that Jones cut 20 lbs of pure muscle between the Ruiz and Tarver fights. He knows nothing about steroids or weight cutting and acts as if he is the authority on both. What a joke.:roflatsch

 

lol come on! steroids dont give you stamina.

Or all the long distnce runners would be roiding, and Arni Schwarznegger and the Mr Universes would all be winning marathons.

 

A year before DM was the Man. But a year after he was shot to ****? If you can read, you can read the links that was put up three days ago. They had quotes fro Roy, his advisor Murad Muhammad, Manny steward and Lewis himself. But that's not good enough for you is it?

Benn, eubank, DM etc weren't as good as Hop and Toney who he beat.

Roy didn't have a great chin. So the **** what? Neither had Tommy. There's guys with great chins, that haven't got half of the ability that Roy had.

Roy's been violently knocked out on two occasions in 63 fights.

Once when he was 35 and last year when he was 42. How many times did he get knocked out in his 20's at his peak? NONE! Oh wait a minute, it's because of the tablets that he'd bought from Christopher Reeve right??

 

I haven't got any knowledge on Roids. I'm quoting Metal, Knockout and a bodybuilder that I once spoke to.