Why are Cuban fighters poor draws in the US?

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  1. KiD Caiman

    KiD Caiman Prospect Full Member

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    Didn't know there was that kind of attitude between white Cubans and black Cubans. I kinda suspected Cuban Americans were not widely into boxing, but I thought they would have at least been more interested in Cuba's fighters.
     
  2. freddy-wak

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  3. Cuban Bon Bon

    Cuban Bon Bon Proverbs 9:10 Full Member

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    Well, the vast majority of US based white Cubans generally are not boxing enthusiasts and much less participate in the sport. You need to understand that there are racially differences in the US based Cuban community. You ask any white Cuban if they are racist and they will surely say no but absolutely none of them would want their white daughter to marry a black Cuban or even live close to them.

    White Cubans follow and participate in others sports ( inside Cuba too ), and Boxing is not " their thing ". This is why 98% of Cuban fighters are black. It's very hard to find a white Cuban boxer
    ( inside Cuba or here ).

    In other words, the racial issue is a big one even though most fans don't see it. Most white Cubans have this mentality " boxing is for blacks "...

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  4. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    They need to be marketed properly. . .
     
  5. PIPO23

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    Because Rigo has a personality of a jackal boring as bat ****.
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They are Black and speak only Spanish. They are trapped between worlds in the American racial context.

    Black but not "US Black" culturally and don't seem to put much effort in "assimilating" with learning English. Spanish speaking, but not Mexican or Puerto Rican. As far as I know, US Cubans aren't really huge Boxing fans. They don't really fit into any of the larger US Boxing constituencies and can't split the difference Boxing at home like Puerto Ricans can.

    I am also sure racism/prejudice plays a part as well. It can also be seen in the inability of Black African fighters to gain popularity even when based in the US, i.e., Clottey. Some of the most vicious rivalries are intra-racial/language, i.e., US Black and African Black, Puerto Rican and Mexican, Mexicans and Salvadorians, Irish and Italians, etc... The similarities at times can amplify the need of groups to find differences and segregate along those lines.
     
  7. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What they have to do:

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  8. arve lie

    arve lie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rigo being on Pacs undercard gonna be bigger star for every fight, its called building up
    And he get more attention in the press with rivals like Donaire, Mares,Arce.
    Its much the same for Lara. He get more and media attention.
     
  9. Stevenson#1

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    True . :good . Peace .
     
  10. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Become Mexican Citizens:think
     
  11. jeffjoiner

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    I always appreciate insight from an inside source. Thanks.
     
  12. Stevenson#1

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    Simply put : BAD PROMOTION , " promotion companies " like TR or GBP are more interested in promoting their untalented cash cows than real hungry prospects , it has nothing to do with race , Most Cubans males ( black or white ) living in the USA who enjoys baseball also enjoys a good fight , specially if there's cubans in it , if the promoters do their job properly and stage a fight at the Arena in Miami Im sure it would overflow with people . Other problem is location , most fights are staged in the west side ( Texas , Nevada , etc ) places with a high Mexican population and of course it's easy for a Mexican to go support their boxers there than a Cuban to fly all the way from the east coast ( Florida ) , that's why you don't see that many cubans over there . ¿ why do you think Arum uses the Puerto Rican New Yord parade to promote his bouts ? , because New York is full of puertoricans , well Miami is full of cubans ¿ why not do the same ? . Peace .
     
  13. KiD Caiman

    KiD Caiman Prospect Full Member

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    :good My questions have been answered.
     
  14. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because they refuse to learn to speak english. Pacquiao would never have been big if he always had to use a translator. Part of being successful is connecting with people and the Cubans connect even worse than Wlad and Vitali. At least we can understand what Wlad and Vitali have to say even if they fight boring.
     
  15. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rigondeux has it all. He has the right style, he has the charisma, he has everything except he wont / doesn't learn english and keeps relying on a translator.

    That can help him in print where a translator can speak for him to hype a fight but eventually he has to go on 24/7 and this will hurt him. Cotto never became big until he learned english and look at him now.