Why are Cuban fighters poor draws in the US?

wow, besides being a pleb with a **** sense of humor, youre also dumb as ****. just because i dont litter my posts with a bunch of smiley faces like a teen girl, does not mean im mad. just blunt and abrasive, not mad.

 

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That's you truth it doesn't mean that you are right, I'll not give an opinion of yourself because of that but I'm sure you haven't meet enough of us to make that assumption.

 

If you go back in time a little bit, you will find fighters like Florentino Fernandez, kid Gavilan, Kid Tunero, Niño Valdez, Ultiminio Ramos, Kid Chocolate, Benny Paret, Jorge Legra, Mantequilla Napoles and a few others in great fights, now if you have something against us is another story, but don't try to diminish our fighters just because you might had a bad encounter of the fourth kind, you are not a bad guy you are just ignorant or butt hurt.

 

i clearly stated it was my experience... and i could very well be wrong, but i didnt make the statement out of ignorance. if cubans are not in fact, loud, boisterous and flamboyant, traits not associated with dignity, then i am wrong and just happen to come across the dozens in the minority.

 

This is spot on. Argentina, and the phillipines have more bragging rights than they do, yet Cubans always act like they're the kings of boxing, yet that title belongs to two larger North American countries. I'm pretty sure we all know what countries I speak of without even mentioning any more than that.

 

When you say that a proud country like Cuba doesn't have dignity because you have met a few of them that like to be loud and have fun, you know what, you are calling almost every Latin American country the same and blacks too, so either you are a 12 years old kid or you are a racist from an alien nation.

 

i am neither, and i agree that you have a proud pro boxing history pre castro but it doesnt change the fact that your fighters today are showing more promise than accomplishments. there are numerous countries with just as much, and more, accomplishments for you to be getting so puffed up over.
you have huge triumphs as amateurs, and you better have, considering 15 year amateur careers should get you something worth the effort. but considering where you are at now, all this posturing by some of you just comes across as hot air.
perhaps in 5 years your pro boxers will be dominating the best out there, but right now, lets just tell it like it is.

 

We being having Champions when the Philippines didn't know what boxing was, we being out of the game for over 50+ years because the regime governing our Island, we or a least I try to teach about our boxing history but you don't want to learn, just like an A$$hole say that we didn't attend boxing match because we were too poor, he didn't know that we make more money then any other minority and the Cubans born here make more money (average) than the whites, so now this person is coming here telling the forum that we have no dignity, we have senators, congressman, astronauts (the first non USA or Russian), he probably drinks Bacardi, actors and actress and he is saying that $h1t, and he was ask from where he was and he say it didn't matter, common guys don't open your mouth if you don't know what's going to come out.

 

bull****, not all latin countries behave like they are competing for the spotlight in every situation, so dont even try that. the fact that you cant even ackwnowledge the differences in the way these different cultures carry themselves, tells me you are just on the defensive, which is understandable, but it gets us no closer to the truth.

 

Oh I know they are showing more promise that accomplishments, but why? The ppl on top doesn't want to give them the opportunity, if you have a guy saying that he doesn't want to fight Rigondeaux because it will be boring, common, then you have Canelo running scared not only from Lara but from the whole division, Arum "marinating" Gamboa-Lopez, Russell didn't want to fight Franco for an eliminator and fought that kid last Saturday, and then started saying he will whoop Gamboa's a$$, you know that there's talent there but the powers to be don't want none of that...

 

so what? you think cuban boxers are the only boxers struggling to get a shot at the brass ring? my beef is that you guys act like you own the brass ring already, and the truth is, you dont. this attitude is exactly the type of undignified behaviour i have found common in your culture, and why i think the way i do. all cultures have their negative peculiarities, this, imo, is yours.

 

i'm not defending anything, why should I? I know who I'm and if we are together in a crowd you will not notice me unless I want it, I really don't know from where you getting that $h1t but you couln't be more wrong B, in any case you will believe waht you want and I'm not here to make you understand, but when talking about boxing you need a dancing partner to put your name up there, so far almost every big name doesn't want to dance with those three Cubans, we have like 20 fighters in the professional ranks and everyone is talking about it, I just can only imagine when the floodgates are open and all those World class athletes jump to the paid ranks.

 

:rofl Yeah right, when the gates open they still wont have 5 fans willing to pay for their fights.

 

We work hard to get to where we are, we own what we work for, nothing is given to us, why if you have so much dignity and honesty you close your eyes to the unjustice done to fighters like Lara, Campillo, Abril and others? You should not be wasting your time with your perception of us, you should be talking about the corruption of the alphabet soups and Sulaiman, you should be asking why Canelo hasn't face a worthy opponent from his own division, why he fought for a 154 belt against a non ranked WW, why JR get to avoid for so long a fight against Martinez the real champion not only at 160 but at 154 too.