Why are modern hw's so flat footed and stiff?

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  1. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    haha. Thats hilarious. 'perfect distance' .. lol

    The Clinchster a master of distance now.
     
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    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Buster Mathis had better all around movement than Wlad and thats not even a joke.
     
  3. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yup he is,

    list of guys who clinch as much as Wlad

    Ward
    Hopkins
    Mayweather
     
  4. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he isnt moving as well as he was against haye he is relying on them clinches now
     
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    They got bigger, ex-heavyweight division is now CW.
     
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    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fights since the Haye fight

    Mormeck - minimal clinching
    Thompson - little clinching
    Wach- minimal clinching
    Pianeta- minimal clinching
    Povetkin- lots of clnching, Povetkin caused a lot of it though by rushing in low and swinging wildly. Hard not to clinch when a guy 5 inches smaller than you is constantly running into your chest. Still you can blame wlad as well
    Leapai- minimal clinching
    Pulev- very little clinching

    7 fights since Haye and in only one of them could you describe the clinching as excessive and it wasn't exclusively his fault, the klitshcko clinching thing is blown way out of preportion these days, its like the only thing some people can cling onto to discredit him
     
  7. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    Russ Amber, a good Canadian boxing trainer and fight ****yst said it best. A boxer doesn't have to make big movements laterally like Ali did to make his opponent miss. If you move your head just 4 inches to the side you make your opponent miss his punch just as well if you move your head 18 inches. You are also in a better position to counterpunch that missed punch. Jake Lamotta and Roberto Duran are great examples of this boxing strategy. It takes courage as most punches barely miss or graze the face but it is a devastating yet simple tactic. It is not as impressive to see like Ali dancing and weaving all over the ring but it works.
     
  8. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    You obviously didn't see these fights
     
  9. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    maybe because shw 240lb+ boxers dont move as well as 200-210lb heavy weights u adore. basics
     
  10. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ahryt you know more than me about him id say, i watched him just against haye then povektin and then pulev didnt watch them other ones, i just thought he wasnt great on his feet against pulev he looked a little more akward to me , i was up for him but he did clinch too much for me and he didnt really move laterally much a lot was them too standing right in front of each other, hope im wrong though and he keeps going
     
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    Buster Douglas did. Big Daddy Bowe did.
     
  12. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    douglas wasnt that big. big daddy bowe didnt have good footwork, dont know where u get that from, thats why he had to inside fight with much smaller fighters, because he couldnt outbox them from a distance.
     
  13. skier47

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    Yeah, that is what I saw too. Pulev hurt Wlad with a jab early and his height and reach messed up Wlad a bit. So, Wlad did what he always does when he encounters an awkward opponent. He adjusts. He saw an opening for an outside left hook and it worked so he stayed in front of Pulev until he finished him off with it. But you are right. Wlad's lateral movement was bad and Pulev took away Wlad 's jab. No small accomplishment and probably why most experts and Ring Magazine had Pulev as the number one ranked heavyweight behind Wlad.