yep adam i dont think a 14 year old kid, really is some gym hopping expert and the other that robocop there seems to forget that that many different gyms have coaches like this so even if the guy leaves his gym to go to another one who says the coach there will be different
ok ,,do you acknowledge there are different levels in boxing & not forget all the time this fat coach as put into a kids & Adults who wants is time to become the next world champion because he's watch a boxing match on TV , so because he walks in his gym believing he's the real deal & never hit a bag before,,the fat coach should jump to is feet & show this lad everything he knows because he's the coach ,well go and **** ya self you respect the mans gym you have walked into & wait your turn before you get is attention how many hours do you think the fat coach as spent on so called boxers that want to fight because there getting big headed on the bags so you let them spar & they get court with couple of shots & don't bother turning up for the next session its not because the fat coach didn't teach him its because boxing isn't as easy as it looks lets say in real life the fat coach trains 20 lads all want to be a amature boxer but never put on a pair of gloves before,,, starting showing the basic punching etc then work on fitness to be able to do 3mins 3 rounds,,,this stage alone will get reid of about 7 lads (way to much hard work) then you start sparring 5 lads won't like that being punched in the face ,never to be seen at the gym again,,, lets not forget the hours the fat coach as spent on the 12 so called boxers thats left the gym so far know we have 8 boxers to go throw to there first amature boxing match he will be lucky to see 2 come back to the gym after fight night there is & should be different standard of coach's just like there is different standards of boxers if your in a fitness gym then readind above isn't relevant ..if your in a ABC gym then wait your turn till your good enough to get the fat coach's attention,,if you don't like it :****off in amature boxing you have to earn the respect from the coach's once you have prov-en you are interested on improving your skills,,then & only then you will get your coach's attention every time you go to the gym
first off **** YOU, 2nd yes by walking into a gym, and PAYING my membership i am paying to learn boxing not to be invisible 3. the fat coach will get me in shape....yes why the **** cant most of them get themselfs in shape while spending half their day in the gym 4. yes maybe a bunch of guys quit on him before after a beating etc, but then again while they were in the gym, THEY PAID HIM FOR HIS SERVICES... so i am not saying he should treat all of them like pacman but i am saying it is his duty to COACH... 5. i dont have to earn ****, my payment is his salary and he should atleast some work for it,**** MAYBE ACTUALLY COACHING will make him lose weight lol 6.FAT COACH probably sucked himself as a boxer and doesnt have much to teach that is why many of his fighters suck
:good your literacy needs a bit of work like mine, but your points are true. I'd be embarrassed to have people come down, pay me for training and leave the kids or adults punching a bag for an hour. That's all I used to do as a kid for a while at a terrible gym I went to. Learned nothing till I went to a proper trainer.
Couldn't have said it better! perfect quote. I want to bash the trainers for their arrogance at times but I also want to stick up for them, for the real trainers that is. it was hard to understand for a long time, why don't they have a structured class like BJJ or taekwando? why do they just let the curious kid just wander out the door without any care. well boxing is nothing like their sports/discipline. It's a competitive sport for starters and it isn't an ideal self defense class either. Boxing is no joke, it is the rawest toughest measure of a man, closest thing to real combat this side of afghanistan. The student must be motivated to teach and perfect himself if he wants to succeed in boxing, the trainer can only be a guide. If the kid hasn't shown any progress on his own than the trainer will only be aiding a tragic situation. If the trainer is a good man he will still do pads and offer tips but being a boxer is mostly in the students hands. The trainers are wise, they know when it's a good time to motivate and help you develop and then when it's time to be a man and make you work for yourself. Some trainers might relate and see something in you and other trainers might think you have no hope. if you are getting ignored or dissed in a gym you need to seriously reevaluate whether you're in the right place to learn or whether you have the right perspective of what you're getting into
It takes 300 hundred attempts to learn a basic new movement. It takes 3,000 attempts to correct a wrong move. I've had lads who have poor self learning ability who can fight very well indeed. There are different learning styles. Not everyone learns on there own. In fact in boxing it's almost pointless attempting to.
Bb What I was referring to is a coach showing a new guy how to throw a punch, they will then see if you've been working on it, down the track these challanges amount to something. if youve listened at all and proven it they will provide more tips and guidance based on your ability to learn. The coach cant throw the punch for you or fight for you, he will teach you things based on your ability to learn. Every coach is differant though. You see high level boxers with constant trainer pad work, drills and supervision, comprehensive conditioning advice but that's just not realistic for every walk in off the street, they need to show some kind of retainer before coaches will invest quality time there
I used to spend a lot of time in a gym that was run by a guy that had fought for a world title in 1977, so he hadn't been a failure as a fighter, he knew what was what, and he wasn't fat, either. What he did have was a gym full of kids, as many as 35 or 40 most nights, and, for the most part, no help. Once, sometimes twice, a week, two other guys would come in and help him. This was a city run gym- it was a real heavy gang area so they started a gym to 'divert' kids-and monthly dues were $5, and they supplied wraps and a mouthpiece. The guy was simply overwhelmed, but he tried. When a tournament was coming up, the kids fighting in it got the attention. I saw a lot of kids that came in, worked hard, got discouraged and left. One of the kids that fought in the tournaments turned pro and is currently 27-5, but lost his last three. The guy that ran the gym, when he started, in Mexico City, they just put them in to fight. If you were tough and had "heart", you moved on to the next round. So he brought what he knew to his gym, tried to give the kids there more than he got, and he won some and probably lost more. Ideally, as a teacher, you'd like to give everybody personalized attention, but that isn't possible, so you do the best you can. God knows there aren't many actual trainers getting rich off of teaching kids to put there hands up and jab. I've worked , for free, with most of the hands in the gym wrapped in wraps I paid for, from 3pm to 10pm. You put in 4 hours with kids that can't pay but want to learn to fight, then three hours with 'white collar' boxers that are paying the gym (not you), so you can use the facility to teach. At the end of the night, you've run the gamut, from teaching an 8 year old how to move, to working with a guy ready to turn pro, to showing sedentary office workers how to jab. You do 30 rounds in the ring on the mitts, while giving directions to people on heavy bags and double end bags, etc... scattered around the gym. (this is the real reason for all the mirrors) And every night you go home thinking that there were at least a few people that didn't get enough of your attention. And, I'm sure, there are people going home thinking they are getting screwed out of their monthly gym dues. That, sometimes, is how it goes.
I know the score...only the best guys can get more help...but there are secrets, like showing up to classes that only a few people go to, showing up early or staying late. I also talk to senior students and they help me. If you are dedicated, people will care. If you're not, people will still help you, at least where I train. Being able to do something well is something to be proud of.
this is a totally different situation and i can totally understand what you mean but this is not what i was talking about, anyone can be overwelmed i am talking more about lazy trainers
first off yes boxing is a tough sport but if you think boxing is hard, try wrestling, this will change your mind. super hard work, lots of injuries and your body just gets beaten up every time getting thrown is a little rougher then skipping lol like myself, i had to have shoulder surgery because of a wrestling injury and the kind of stucture you see in bjj or tkd is seen in boxing but more so in europe.... bottom line those guys doing bjj which is also a very competive sport actually learn bjj not the art of being lonely with a heavybag..... let me guess which gym wont have trouble paying rent lol
and why the **** not, why is the local muay thai trainer usually ripped? cause he is not a pig that let himself go thats why its a like a skinny boney mofo teaching people bodybuilding lol something is off