Why are you against Olympic style blood testing?

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No you lack reasoning.

    Any person is innocent UNLESS they want to practice their craft at the expense of someone else. If a contractor wants to work on a military project he has to prove he can be trusted with secrets. If your doctor wants to do surgery he has to prove he has the medical credentials. If a lawyer wants to practice law he must pass the bar to prove he has the understanding necessary.

    If Manny wanted to get it on he would prove he was innocent. Instead he ran. :deal
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    ok another one. now its stamina. when did you start to watch pac that it suggested that he has problem with stamina? let me guess, you are one of the joyboys who thinks pac has been using them (PEDs) up since he was from the lower weights.

    why would pac need added stamina when he already has a great one? you joyboys are reaching with all of these accusations. lol :lol:
     
  3. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    Good question... and funny responses (first couple of pages anyway).
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Man I don't even think he understood it like you did.

    To your point. Testing is more of a deterrent than it is actually to catch people. You HOPE to make people not go there.

    Manny ran from it. What does that say.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

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    the problem is you guys thinks that it is just easy. a guy suggested a thing "that could be good" and say hell yeah let's implement it. in real life you have to study how to implement it. study if it is really needed or is it an overkill. do pro baseball, basketball and football uses Olympic style testing?
     
  6. KO Boxing

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    True. And while improved testing certainly wouldn't eliminate all cheaters, it would make a large number of those currently cheating (or thinking of cheating) to stop.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dude I am throwing crap at the wall. Who knows if it will stick? He may be using some cocktail that does a little of everything. The point is that if he is clean he will test and get it on. Instead he ran.

    You ignorant butt is using the defense of, "If you can't guess the exact drug before testing you can't test!" What type of silliness is that? :lol:
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about? The WADA and USADA are sitting there fully able to implement it on the spot! :yep

    Dude you are all over the place! :nut
     
  9. Uncle Oden

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    Don't come with that. First of all, those sports have collective bargaining agreements and hopefully, over time, they will adjust their rules. Baseball has come a long way.

    Those are team sports, though. I said it from the get go, why can't boxing take the lead? Is it necessary for a team sport to implement stringent rules and boxing follow? I don't think so.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    these task should be made by the commissions. but there are too many commissions in each country or states that having it centralized is a tough task.

    there also some topics about this that are not fully discussed. in team sports, a player caught is suspended for days and will have warnings depending on how many times he got caught already. but the game would still continue. in boxing, once a boxer tested positive, a whole card would be shelved if the boxer is a star. this could be one of the factor why commissions still do not do random test in america. they are afraid of too many fight cancellations and it would be bad for business.

    so change is ok, not just too drastic as to implement something like an olympic style testing just like in amateurs. also one of my earlier questions has yet to be answered. how do they implement this in every fight? will they restrict fighters to a certain location for training to implement this amateur type of test?
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    you don't even add up to this topic. when you started posting here, all i heard is floyd this floyd that and pac is on roids. how can you contribute to change in boxing? i guaratee you almost all are for it. but do we need olympic style testing in pro boxing? then this is good question that needs to be answered. i say let's implement change but not too drastic. NSAC can start by making urine test random.
     
  12. cabriolet98146

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    I enjoyed reading most of the posts here. Some are funny, some are silly and some are really confusing. So....

    Can someone REALLY explain to me what " OLYMPIC STYLE RANDOM TESTING" is?


    (Hints: this is an open ended question......also, USADA is a business and TESTING is their product.)
     
  13. haglerforever

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    :yep
     
  14. Uncle Oden

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    Personally, I have only called for it in title fights, every one of the 4 ABC's. Including the WBO as much as I hate that belt. I believe there should be stringent testing for all title fights. And it should not be difficult to enact or enforce. If it's a problem, then suspicions should be raised.
     
  15. divac

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    You cant make a more idiotic statement than the the highlighted right there......

    Why in hell would boxing change their testing protocol half ass to a standard beneath what currently capable of?

    If you're going to test fighter, you would think you would use the most up to date methods.

    You cant be serious Puga....Change it to random urine and see what happens?:nut:nut:nut:nut

    I've read various threads in this forum that took you to links with medical science pointing to the best method is to test both blood and urine......some reports have gone as far as testing blood, urine and hair......


    You're saying, lets test just urine...:nut:nut:nut:nut

    Why???? You want Pac to be subjected only to urine, and then when he retires, they can go full blast to blood????:lol::lol::lol:

    I would suggest a better method......test for blood and urine, and lets see for the next couple of years which tests are being more efficient in catching these cheats.

    In fact, that question has already been answered in one of these threads a couple of weeks ago......a Dr. was quoted as saying that the best testing method is to test for both, because there are certain PED's that are better detected with blood, and others with Urine.
    .......I'm beside myself as to why the *******s put their blinders on when such a read comes about.:patsch