Why blame Povetkin for PEDS when all top athletes take them?

Yeah that thing was a year or two ago now. That's also a big reason why I don't feel like trying to find this information again lol.

 

Because you aren't you really curious about this in the first place. If you were you would look this up yourself. I don't feel like doing this again.

 

It should matter but when do those caught ever say “ok you got me”?all they do is stick to the tainted meat or tainted supplement story so even when punished they can claim they were innocent.
Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones,two big cases of athletes never failing a test whilst doped up to the eyeballs should indicate that the testing thing is either not very good or corruptible at best.

 

Absolutely only they never fess up when caught either.

 

Cause it’s the usual Russian Propaganda thing,stuff like this was seeded into folks minds in the days of Rocky as something bad.
They’re only PEDs for Goodness sake.

 

I'm sure that a very high percentage of top athletes take then, but I'm equally sure that not "all" of the top athletes do.

Personally I feel that they should be allowed to take them; it evens the playing field, and there's then no room for cheating in that sense.

 

C.O. Geary: Don't look at me like I'm some con. You're as crooked as scoliosis!.

C.O. Bellick: I don't get caught.

 

This. All elite athletes take something whether it be stimulants, steroids, anti depressants, etc. Also, Athletes know ahead of time what VADA, WADA, USADA, UKAD, etc. are going to be testing for, so as long as the substance isn't on the list its not cheating. Also, if athletes want to take something on the list they just need a TUE and can micro dose. Ortiz and Povetkin both would've easily been granted a TUE exemption and never would've had a problem, but neither bothered to even file for one.

Here is a Therapeutic Use Exemption form from VADA
http://vada-testing.org/forms/VADA TUE Application v12-16-11.pdf

Here is a Therapeutic Use Exemption form from UKAD
https://www.ukad.org.uk/assets/uploads/Files/TUE_Application_Form.pdf

Elite athletes with multi-millionaire backers could easily pay a doctor to get creative on these forms. I knew plenty of athletes in the NCAA, who would routinely get TUE exemptions for Paxil or Zoloft. These athletes took this any many other substances throughout their entire collegiate careers and never had a problem because they took care of the paperwork before hand.

Joshua is 6'5" 230 lbs at 24 years old

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I'm supposed to believe he just put on 10-20 lbs on lean muscle mass on his already lean and tall frame.

Here is some more info from the UKAD

Do you need a TUE?
1) Check to see if any medications you are using are prohibited on Global DRO. If the medication is not prohibited, you can start using the prescribed medication or treatment.

2) If the medication is prohibited you should check with your prescribing physician to see if there are any alternative medications of treatments that are prohibited.

3) If it is prohibited and there are no permitted alternatives, you now need to work out if you need a TUE in advance or a retroactive TUE.

When to Apply for a TUE
To find out whether you are required to hold a TUE in advance or not see the When to Apply for TUE section.

An athlete not required to apply for a TUE prior to competition can make a retroactive TUE application to UK Anti-Doping. Any athlete requiring a retroactive TUE has five days post the receipt of an adverse analytical finding (AAF) to submit a retroactive application. Typically an athlete will receive a letter by courier to confirm an AAF and inform them of the requirements to apply for a retroactive TUE for the prohibited substance detected in their sample. The NGB or UKAD may also contact the athlete to make them aware that this correspondence is on its way, in relevant circumstances.

We encourage any athlete who has been tested, without a TUE in place who may require one, to contact UKAD to discuss the process to better understand their rights and responsibilities. Even if an athlete is eligible to apply for a retrospective TUE, checks should be made with the prescribing physician that the criteria and medical evidence needed by the Therapeutic Use Exemption Committee (TUEC) can be met before the athlete uses any prohibited substance or method.

 

Yep, it's not illegal to take PEDS. it's illegal to get CAUGHT taking peds.

 

Yep the TUE thing is a funny one in itself as they ain’t exactly transparent when it comes to those either.

 

I don't blame you. Between work, continuing education, family, there's a lot to remember before trying to keep information from a hobby/diversion straight.

 

All pro athletes take PEDs I’ve mentioned this dozens of times. It’s no secret within the business, if you can navigate around it great if not your team is irresponsible.

 

I fully support this train of thought. I’d be going against the evidence presented to me me as a person deeply entrenched in the medical world if I didn’t express what I’ve seen in the biz. I worked closely with orthopedic surgeons and sports medicine practitioners, at some point all pro athletes have dabbled and either seemed themselves off the drugs. It’s all about proper cycling. I don’t put much stock into it because it never relaxes what comes natural and it certainly does nothing for their skill sets other than the occasional placebo effect. Pain killers and cortisone shots are intensely more impactful.

 

To those saying you never got busted so you are innocent until proven guilty?

I give you the case of Roy Jones. Who failed a test but it was covered up until a few years ago.

I give you the case of Evander Holyfield who had steroids delivered to his home address throughout his career but never popped.

 

wierd thing about holy is him using a name that sounds like his own. Surely you just address it to bob smith.


btw its not povetkin, its maria pedvetkin.