Why Can't An Offensive Machine Like pacquiao Fight Inside?

You shits don't know what you are talking about!!!!!!

If Pac's has shitty inside game,how comehe always comesouton top in close quarter fighting and how come Mosley and Bradley resort to running or contorting to such extent?

 

Same with Tyson. When his opponent clinched him, he instantly get frozen.

 

Are you all idiots saying that Pac has no inside game because he does not know how to clinchl? Because you seem to mistake clinching with inside game.

You know who else does not have a clinching game? Cotto.

Based on what I gleam in this thread, Andre Ward probably has the pound per pound best inside game if you count how many times he clinches.

 

That's not really infighting. He is a mid range fighter, and that gif shows what he does. He moves/leaps in, with mid range shots. He doesnt know how to smother an opponents punches, doesn't know how to stand on the inside and parry attacks, how to use his arms for defense on the inside. He is comfortable with mid range and the top shows it. He may come on the inside, only when the opponent is out of position, but this is not infighting per se -- the art of standing in the pocket, and making your home there and putting in work.

 

He didn't KD cotto by infighting (not infighting -- look at JCC and Duran to see what infighting is), one of the KD's was a counter when he was going backwards a little bit while cotto reaching with a wide hook I believe. He took a step back and landed a few shots from that same range he is comfortable with, it was a sort of uppercut. The other KD was him leaping in with a punch, which is what he does all the time. He leaps in and gets out of there immediately, leaps in leaps out from that range he is comfortable with.

 

He doesn't have a insight game. No. If he did, he would not have the problems he has with Marquez, because Marquez exploits this void all the time. I have no idea why you are getting upset. It's only a credit to Manny that he has done so much without it. He is quite the athletic specimen, like a RJJ.

 

It's a beautiful art.....one that not many have adopted. It's not the only "art" that make up the sweet science. The beauty about boxing is the many different flavors with regards to the styles. There are some who are a jack of all trades....having a mix of many different styles....some only have that one style that they've mastered, perfected and enhanced.....PAC's definitley NOT an infighter...he does do it at times but like you said...it's only when HE'S initiating which is usually as his turning, showing angles and shooting in...leaving his opponent out of position and in defensive mode.....

 

How wxactly can you apply inside game against a fighter who is already taking two steps backwards when you put your feet forward?

The subtlety with Marquez is that he always maintain a distance, not too far to counter but not too close to be in the firing range. He does it simply with simple back steps, but very adept at reading foot movements. Even the stepping of the foot are somewhat deliberate because the extensions of those foot movement were very long and abnormal sometimes.

 

stop screaming you ****

 

What skills really are requisites for inside fighting'?

Theoritically, there is not much to it except it favors the physically stronger fighter.

So what exactly are the skillsets required to be an inside fighter,interms of defenseand offense?

A.Defense - ????

B. Offense - ?????

Then we can actually say this and that does not have inside fighting skills instead of this hocus-focus mumbo jumbo thread, where opinions means ****.

 

each has his own style of boxing..pac will not be as succesful if he didnt master the art of in and out fighting..besides not everybody has the ability to do what Pac does in the ring.

 

Because he's always been more effective fighting at mid-range?

You know, all of this talk about "Pacquiao can't fight on inside bla bla bla" is good and all, but when have we ever seen an opponent take him on the inside to beat him up? Bradley, a pretty good inside fighter, didn't have any notable good moments in this so-called weak area of Pacquiao you keep talking about. Because Pacquiao's footwork and punch variety is so good, that he never remains in a position to be dragged in a phone-booth fight.

 

Or the other foghter would never dream of being in a phone-booth with Pac!!!

Bradley was reacting to even the fakest feint.

Phone-booth fights favor the bigger puncher and the more faster fighter. Do the math.

 

So now you are saying that the two fighters that freddie roach has basically won trainer of the year for for how many years had no impact on the way they fight? Pac has been with him for how long? where was Pacs career before freddie? where is it now?

to say a fighter does not need an inside game is like saying a drive should not be taught how to do a left turn . . . someday everyday they will need it.

I am not saying Manny and Amir are not Great fighters . . . they are not complete fighters

 

Pretty much said what I was about to say.

Who says he has to fight on the inside? The object of the game is to win and key factors that come into play are shaping the momentum toward your own strengths and away from your opponent's. "Fighting your fight, not his fight," so they say.

Just because an opponent will rush on the inside doesn't mean you have to fight on the inside now, that's one-dimensional thinking (quite ironic); you can always take half a step back, circle to the side, modulate the distance to your liking. If you get cornered? Lol watch the margarito fight again and see what he did

People like to categorize styles so much but when something weird and out of the blue starts winning it gets close-mindedly criticized, and chalked up to roids/a-side or some ****. Textbook sextbook you think Galileo was praised by the church for his assertions on planetary movement?