whats there to say that isnt already obvious? the proof is right there, on video, easily scrutinized free of sound. what other rds do you see most fans giving to arthur? i want to examine those.
It's quite a close round that imo but feel Beterbiev edged it. The first two minutes there's nothing really in the round it's completely there for the taking, and then in the final minute Beterbiev takes it. But if someone feels Bivol won that round I'm not gonna disagree with them, this was a fight at the highest level and I love the debate that's ensued.
do you need me to point out the time stamps of the scoring blows bivol was landing those first 2 minutes you feel nothing was happening?
i have it 5-1 bivol halfway, giving biev the 5th only. these are clear bivol rds. anyone who disagrees, show me why, video is right there. this means bivol needs 2 more rds to win, on my card.
I initially gave the third to Beterbiev. I changed it after rewatching it. I had Bivol up 4-0 after the first 4 rounds.
rd 7. biev seems to score first with a grazing hook 15 seconds in. bivol times a beautiful straight right 25 seconds in, then catches him again with a looping right as biev retreats to reset. bivol walks him into a hard jab at 2:15 on the clock. scoring jab to the gut by biev at 2:09. bivol scores 2 jabs before exploding at 1:47 with a combination that only got a looping right in. double jab by bivol gets though at 1:15. at the minute mark bivol conects a hard 1-2 that makes biev stumble back. bivol explodes again an connects another 1-2 at :55. they exchange a combination that biev seems to get the best of and he goes after bivol hard. bivol jumps on his bike, biev gets a little upper in there at :33. jab at :22 scores for biev. nobody connects clean rest of the rd. beterbiev was controlled and outpointed for 2.5 minutes of that rd. bivol connected the 2 hardest punches in the rd. at 2:35 and at 1:00. this is a bivol rd. i have it 6-1 at this point. bivol needs 1 more rd to seal it.
rd 8. no clear score until the 2:00 minute mark, jab to midsection from bivol. jab to the side by biev at 1:50. jab to mid by bivol at 1:34. straight right by biev at :52. at :27 they trade punches, bivol catches biev with a left as he steps in, and biev connects his follow up left, while commentator describes it as trading right hands. hard jab by biev at :14. hard right hand by biev last 10 seconds, bivol answers with a combo that catches biev clean on the jaw, and they trade with no clear scoring shots. i give this rd to biev. close. 6-2 bivol.
I scored the round to Bivol, but marked the third as the first round that could reasonably swing to Beterbiev. Beterbiev looked to land a glancing jab at the chest and a right to the body in the first minute, curled a right hand around the guard with about a minute left, and managed to drive a couple of rights through the guard during the tussle that occurred in the closing thirty seconds of the round. Bivol landed a couple of very nice counters, and a lovely one two and the cleaner work sealed the frame on my card...But Beterbiev got some work done, outworked Bivol for the first time and made the round close enough for reasonable disagreement to occur, imo.
rd 9. first clear score is at 2:37, shot to ribs by bivol. left to body right to head by bivol at 2:17. double jab by biev at 1:56. good straight left, right hook to body, and left hook to head combo by bivol at 1:51. hard left hook by bivol at 1:46. jab to body by bivol at 1:35. bivol connects straight right followed by left hook at 1:14. hard hook to the body by bivol at :54. straight right to body followed by left hook from bivol at :28 followed by straight right by bivol at :26. bivol dominated the rd making my card 7-2 bivol, putting the fight out of arthurs reach without knock downs or stoppage, with 3 rds remaining. you can give the rest to arthur if you like, it doesnt give him the fight, from what i saw and described.
thats where im at right now after 9 rds, if i just decide to give beterbiev the last 3, oscar vs trinidad style, i end up with bernsteins final score.
Yeah I thought Bivol was 4-0 from the start clearly. You have to really go out of your way to try to give those to Beterbiev
I had Bivol winning. One thing I don't understand is when I read people upset for a 116-112 scorecards while they have 115-113. There is only one round difference between 115-113 and 116-112. Why, if YOU score a 115-113 favoring Beterbiev, do you call a judge corrupted if that judge finds an extra round in favor of Beterbiev ? The margin here is just too small. 116-112 is shameful. 115-113 is perfect lucidity ?
No, I'd just watched the round with my own eyes and scored it. Timestamps aren't used to score rounds.