Why did Floyd use USADA and not VADA?

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  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    No, I'm pointing YOUR hypocrisis. You are so biased, it's absolutely pathetic.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah and you're totally unbiased that your reaction to this video is that Manny Pacquiao is totally truthful and clean! LOL!!!

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    LOL, if there ever was a damning video of a PED abuser its this one of Pacquiao right here.
     
  3. Neon Maniac

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    USADA sounds like a soft drink , maybe he thought it came with benefits of taste ?
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why is this a damning video?
     
  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Not at all. I've posted a million times that I wouldn't be surprised if all top athletes were not on something. If Pac came out dirty I wouldn't be shocked.

    You, however, believe 100% that Margarito is innocent but think Pac was loading his gloves. Laughable.
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    After watching that video and you don't know, you need to go back to 3rd grade and work on comprehension skills.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Or you could just give me your opinion.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Except it’s not a fact and it’s never been proven.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don’t understand your position here.

    You have already read Lance’s articles and agree that Floyd was guilty.

    Manny asking for Floyd’s medical records has everything to do with the defamation suit against him.

    It was to put him on the spot after the rumours they’d heard.

    Manny’s team were basically saying:

    “You’ve accused us of being dirty for years, when you yourself could be dirty”

    Whether you think he had the right to ask for them or not, it was done to turn the tables, to make him feel uncomfortable.

    Wouldn’t you have acted the same in his position?
     
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  10. GeorgeDeservesAMedal

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    I think we know why. And we all know Floyd doesn’t like a level playing field.

    When is he going to fight McGregor in MMA like he lip flapped about so many times in the lead up to their boxing match??
     
  11. divac

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    Alluding to and asking Mayweather to step up with his medical records was something for Pacquiao to have done publicly, not in a defamation lawsuit against him.
    For example, if a person defames you for being a reckless driver, if you sue him in a court of law for that, you don't turn to the judge and ask that the accuser turn over his driving record. The accusers driving record has nothing to do with your driving record.
    In order to clear your own name of a false accusation of being a reckless driver, you'd sue the individual making such accusation and he would have to prove he was in the right to make such an accusation.
    You're the person who was defamed and since you thought it damaged your reputation that was important enough for you to sue, you would probably submit to the court your driving record so that it would increase your chances of winning monetary damages.
    You cant however state, "He accused me of being a reckless driver and damaged my reputation, for that I want him to fork over his driving record." You would get laughed out of court for asking for such a thing.

    What happened in the case of Mayweather settleing with Pacquiao is that there was some damning video out there of not only of himself but team Mayweather, people on Mayweather's payroll who were spreading the idea of Pacquiao being a PED user.
    Even though things were happening in Pacquiao's career that pointed heavily that he was likely using PED's, as a professional boxer and peer of Pacquiao, you just cant throw around accusations unless you have the hard proof that Pacquiao was using PED's.
    That's just how the law works, everybody with a brain might know the guys is on PED's, but if you don't have the hard proof like in a failed drug test which were non-existent back in those days, then Pacquiao's probability of winning that defamation lawsuit was probably pretty high and so Mayweather settled.
    The way I see it, Mayweather had pretty shrewd businessmen advising him and even though he settled and had to pay Pacquiao money because of that defamation lawsuit, the publicity Mayweather gained from that whole fiasco of Mayweather/Pacquiao and why hasn't that fight been made yet, all of that media attention was garnering more media attention in both Mayweather and Pacquiao fights
    The excess money that Mayweather was able to garner because of his "verbal feud" with Pacquiao is exponentially higher than the money he forked over to Pacquiao because of that defamation lawsuit.

    One thing about Mayweather that I give him credit for, he knows how to stir the pot and make clowns like most here on this forum fork over the money to watch him win or lose. Mayweather hates neutral observers like myself, he loves those who love him, and he loves those who hate him equally as those who love him because both those individuals put money in his pocket.

    LOL, the money Mayweather paid to Pacquiao in that settlement was money out of your pocket, not his. LOL!!!
     
  12. Loudon

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    Your driving analogy doesn’t fit.

    That shouldn’t need explaining.

    We know why Manny said what he did.

    Manny never needed the money what he’d have been paid for the lawsuit.

    He did it, because he knew the Mayweather’s would be publicly forced to apologise, due to them not having any evidence.

    It made them look foolish, it obviously had them worried, and it also hyped the fight for Manny and put more pressure on Floyd to make the fight.
     
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  13. divac

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    What about the driving analogy doesn't fit of course it fits.

    I accuse you of being a reckless driver and you sue me for defamation. You cant ask me to fork over my driving record in a court of law.
    Mayweather accuse Pac of PED's and Pac sues for defamation. Pacquiao cant ask Mayweather to fork over his medical records.

    What about that is so hard for you to comprehend???

    In boxing, Mayweather has never done anything that he didn't want to do.
    Mayweather played Manny Pacquiao not the other way around.

    I will say this, though Pacquiao was played by Mayweather, he too was getting extra media hype from even non-boxing journalist and it was all due to Mayweather game of playing the media.
    Pacquiao monetarily benefited in his fights as well for the game Mayweather played.
     
  14. Loudon

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    Of course it doesn’t fit.

    Your analogy accounts for something that happens in every day life.

    Yes, nobody in that specific situation, would be asking the other party to turn over their license.

    Why would they?

    You have to obviously take into account that the 2 situations aren’t comparable.

    We’re talking here about a fight that grossed over $400m.

    Yes, Manny didn’t have the right to ask for what he did. But he did it to get under Floyd’s skin and to see how he’d react.
     
  15. divac

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    Again, Pacquiao asking for Floyd's medical records isn't what made Mayweather settle.
    Mayweather could have simply ridiculed Pacquiao for asking for such private records, certainly nobody in the media was expecting
    Mayweather to hand over his medical records.