Why Did Lennox Lewis Duck Byrd, Wlad and Ibeabuchi?

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    The WBC wouldn't sanction Lewis - Johnson so Lewis went ahead and announced only his IBO belt would be on the line, while the WBC belt would only be on the line when Lewis faces Vitali. Lewis tried to avoid Vitali so much it wasn't even funny anymore. If it wasn't for Johnson pulling out we might have never seen what turned out to be a great fight.
     
  2. HerolGee

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    no one is claiming he was in horrific shape, nor would an opinion on an entirely different boxer in an entirely different fight have any bearing on this one.

    only YOU are claiming that Vits was in horrific shape.

    YOU should stand by YOUR arguments instead of trying to wriggle free of them.

    So please explain why your argument is sound again, using YOUR boxer and YOUR fight and not any old Rocky Marciano vs LaStarza.
     
  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you dumb? I said Wlad - not Vitali - was obviously in horrific shape against Brewster. Any pro fighter who can't walk straight after 5 minutes of action without taking any meaningful punches isn't in good condition.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    I mean wlad obviously.

    point is the same. answer the point, when you are ready, or if you even can.
     
  5. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Right, because he would have also not taken Lewis seriously and not train adequately :patsch

    How many people came and paid for Tyson fights? :patsch
     
  6. HerolGee

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    he trained, he just wasn't good, that's all. you slap your own face, it seems.

    I see you use the plural 'fights' when describing big dollar top opponent fights.
    his top opponents lasted generally MUCH more than 30 seconds. you slap your own face again.


    so it seems you slap you own face for yourself I didn't need to say anything.
     
  7. Mr. Iron Chin

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  8. The Mongoose

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    Wlad did not have an immediate rematch clause for the WBO title. Sanders was allowed one fight before he had to rematch Wlad for the belt. This is documented and I've posted articles that state as much. The WBO mandated that Sanders must fight Brewster next, Sanders wasn't interested. Sanders pursued Roy Jones, who declined. Sanders than dropped the WBO title and made the Vitali fight.

    Wlad wanted to rematch Sanders and stated as much, he was however unable to legally force it. Sanders understandably did not want the fight because he had the freedom to cash out against a bigger fish, Roy Jones for the WBA title and than Vitali for the WBC title. Sanders got fat for a year, lost to Vitali, and retired, rendering a second Wlad fight impossible. Neither Wlad or Sanders ducked each other for a second fight, it just wasn't in the cards.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    Exactly. When it comes to Lewis' sketchy actions as Champion, people just seem to make up whatever they want.

    Johnson was a mandatory? He only ducked Byrd to fight Tyson? Lewis only wanted big money? None of which was true.
     
  10. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    A range rover? :lol: Don King rules.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    You know the reason for the King/Lewis deal? Lewis would not have been stripped of the title until October. And Byrd's court ordered title shot for the IBF belt expired that December.

    So there was a need to get the ball rolling if Lewis was not going to fight Byrd, which he made very clear he had no intention of ever doing. Byrd/Holyfield was quickly put together to meet that December deadline.
     
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  12. HerolGee

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    always the way when its wlads losses.
     
  13. drenlou

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  14. uncletermite

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    Not sure about Byrd but Wlad was still green around 2000's and I think Lewis wanted to wait and see more of him.i remember seeing Wlad throw out Lewis name after he beat Mercer I think?I think he would have had a good chance as his punching power was even at that time dangerous and he was explosive,i think wlad scared many boxers,the southpaw style derailed him and a Lewis fight I think when he lost to Sanders.