Why did Liston take a dive in his rematch with Ali?

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    News to me.
     
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  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    "we learned their had very definitely been a fix in that fight." - William Roemer FBI agent.

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  3. Roughhouse

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    If you want to live in FantasyLand and believe both fights were on the up and up and you need to desperately protect some strange sense of boxing purity or Ali's legacy, feel free to do so. I'm always amused though at folks that run up and down a thread furiously protecting their beliefs like somebody just challenged their wife's purity or something.

    Reasonable people can see a bad acting job. You need to believe otherwise, fine. Nobody is coming to your house and making you believe differently at gunpoint.
     
  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Thats not definitive, it’s only saying they learned Sonny was approached. Which means nothing. There was no wire tap, no photograph and no confession by anyone involved. Who profited from it?
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    :lol: An FBI agent flat out stated after an investigation, they found evidence of a fixing. We have you, a troll who jumps on anything anti-Liston. Who are we to believe?
     
  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Being approached is evidence of fight fixing. But being approached is as important as Larry Merchant said it was on the same documentary.
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I.. don't even know what you're trying to say. Just man up and admit you're wrong for ****ing once.
     
  8. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Yep, Sonnys horizontal rolling around on the floor was pretty obvious and ham acting at its worst. Russell Crowe would have been proud.

    As you said Ali knew it was bogus, hence the whole " get up you bum " tirade.

    Cheers.
     
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