Why did the referee not stop the fight when Fury was out on his feet?

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  1. Tyson Fury

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  2. Olekandr Usyk

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  1. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All I know is I would have loved to see Usyk get another shot in.

    Fury was slumped against the ropes and mostly helpless.

    His eyes had that wide open yet completely unfocused look.

    Fury's head was slumped over and not moving. Usyk would have been punching downward to a stationary target.

    I believe the ref saved Fury from the coup de grace shot.
     
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  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I said, that was the time when the ropes held him up that he looked really defenceless, so that might have been how the ref reasoned. But, yes, I don't think there would have been much of a controversy if the fight was stopped. Compare Tyson-Ruddock. That one was controversial, but Ruddock wasn't remotely as hurt as Fury was.

    And of course, we have Mercer-Morrison, where Mercer was allowed to unload some brutal punches when Morrisson was slumped on the ropes.
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    precisely. the next shot would have seriously hurt fury. permanently. he was completely defenseless and motionless. a floating stationary target. usyk was about to drop his power hand square on his temple.
    the ref is suppose to give an 8 count when a fighter is prevented from hitting the canvas by the ropes. that happened 4 times in that sequence before he finally stepped in. he stepped in only when he saw that he was completely done.
     
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  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's either being defenseless or ruled as having the ropes prevent you from otherwise touching the canvas with anything other than the feet. You could make the case that Fury could have been counted a couple of times earlier in the round, but since he was generally upright even as he was stumbling around the ring, I could see why Nelson held off on issuing the count. He certainly wasn't upright when he hurtled back into the corner when the KD was finally called, so that was definitely an appropriate time to issue a count.

    That said, I think there was definitely a case to call the fight off at the point when Fury was hurtling back into the corner, because at that point he had been rendered defenseless. If Nelson calls it right there instead, I wouldn't have complained.
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Me neither.
     
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  6. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know if the ref was corrupt. It looked more like he was always a step behind the action.

    I hate to say this but he looked too old for the job. Just a little to slow at this point in his life.

    Luckily, the fight didn't descend into a clinch-fest like Wilder-Fury II because I don't think this ref would be physical enough to deal with that.

    So I'm not going to call him corrupt. More like past it.
     
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  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course, it's always going to be controversial that he called a KD instead of just plain stopping it, just as the Dubois call is always going to be controversial. There will be those calls now and then.

    But, ****, looking at some of the refs calls and two of the cards, almost everything went in Fury's favour and he still lost. If it's the same story in the rematch it will be an absolute outrage. But if some big calls goes against Fury instead, then he will have no cause to complain. He and his fans still will, though.
     
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  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes. Was that the best they could get, really? The next best thing for Fury to someone who isn't corrupt or biased in his favour is someone who won't be forceful, because Fury is probably the dirtiest top fighter around today and he's very good at doing exactly the amount of **** he can get away with. Just ask Cunningham.
     
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  9. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    It’s the count not the seconds, but giving Fury 20 seconds to recover is a bit fishy. Usyk only needed another 2-3 seconds to have completely finished him
     
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  10. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    Hardly bothers me. If fighters can continue I'd rather see the fight continue. At the end of the day the right man won.
     
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  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The ref also got a bit in Usyk's way when he was chasing Fury around the ring and pummeling him, so it was a bad performance from him and two of the judges. I hope they get better people there for the rematch.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Honestly don't understand this controversy.

    Fury finished the fight on his feet. He arguably won rounds after this situation.

    The idea he couldn't continue is nonsense.

    Fury didn't go down, the one time he would have done he got counted.

    What's the issue?
     
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  13. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    They won't because there is so much money involved in a Fury win. The referring was obviously biased.
     
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  14. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can understand that but in that case the ref should have stayed out of the way for another 20 seconds.

    He seemed indecisive and inconsistent to me.
     
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