Why did Wilder duck Klitschko?

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  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Peter would have been outboxed and knocked out by Luis ortiz. He was Andre Miller before Andre miller
     
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  2. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL, but that "shot: fighter would beat Wilder in your Fantasy world......all you Fury and AJ nuthuggers are clinging on to WK to ratchet up their wins over him as some major achievement .
     
  3. lewis gassed

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    Yet he won a belt and Ortiz never even accomplished that :lol:
     
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  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Because he got spanked by Wlad in sparring and sent home with a cake. That type of humiliation is apt to stick with one.
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    AJ? lmao Isnt that enough at the moment since most are up and coming and if I have to list them it shows once again you are just clueless and behind in following boxing so I wont,you can figure it out.

    Wallin pressured Fury ,don't you understand that ? It requires SKILLS to keep Fury on his toes and guessing,with Wilder he could have did stand up comedy the punches were not even present bc Wilder doesn't work a active jab ….BOXING 101.


    This is the reason why you guys are jokes on here ,have next to no reasoning with limited boxing knowledge and you question me ? lmao
     
  7. BCS8

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    Fixed it. Sam Peter was another Wilder type that flourished despite his limitations. Peter had less fear, started faster, a better chin and similar power to Wilder. Yeah, Wilder has a great right hand. But that's academic since Wilder takes 6 rounds before he uncorks it. Ortiz might well outbox Peter, but he might get KO'd as well. I'm not sold on fossil Ortiz' chin.
     
  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Dillian Whytes plan on how to get Wilder to stop ducking him:

    @ 6:20

    https://youtu.be/YH2vOwyr7AI


    Find wilder in a bar and smash him then take his belt and run
     
  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    IDK. Comparing the physical gifts of Sam peter to deontay Wilder is a bit of a stretch for me. Can't buy into it.
     
  10. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because his team knew Wlad would spark him like he did in sparring. Klitschko would have been a bad style match up for Wilder.
     
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  11. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not a Wlad-specific thing. Wilder (bronze medallist on 34 months experience) was moved slowly up the pro levels while he gained experience in sparring.

    - In his 10th fight (2010, 4.5 years boxing experience) he fought veteran spoiler Alvaro Morales

    - In his 25th (2012) he fought tall outboxer Kelvin Price (Wilder was sparring Wlad for this fight)

    - In his 33rd (2015) he fought big punching, hard chinned WBC titlist Stiverne

    - In his 40th (2018) he fought highly skilled explosive southpaw counter puncher Ortiz

    - In his 41st (2018) he fought lineal champion Fury

    This provides a reference for the level of opposition they were willing to put Wilder in there with at a given time. Though it's also the case that Wilder was an avoided fighter himself:

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/who-ducked-deontay-wilder.713776/

    Given the cautious approach of Wilder's American matchmakers and the appeal of a more lucrative Joshua fight to Wlad, a Wlad fight wasn't on the cards. America had seen many prospects fall by the wayside since their last titlist (2007 Briggs), challengers cut down one by one and they wanted to make sure Wilder had the requisite experience to meet the challenges as he stepped up in levels. Maybe they moved him too slowly but by the same token, he didn't get upset by a wide underdog. I don't think they'd have let him fight Wlad without at least about 12 years of boxing experience.
     
  12. KINGWILDER

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    They avoided Wlad because he poleaxed Wilder in training and they knew he was a very dangerous fight. Stop trying to sugar coat things and accept Wilder ducked Wlad (by your own logic).
     
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  13. Redbeard7

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    Wilder wasn't stepped up to genuine top 5 and top 1 level until 2018, given Wilder's career progression it wasn't on the cards. And given Wlad's record against punchers I think he would have been more afraid of Wilder than Wilder was of him. Wlad handled Joshua in sparring but managed to bottle the fight, Wilder wasn't in camp as a sparring partner to try to take Wlad's head off.

    Wilder's fought better opposition since in Wlad-dethroner Fury on three occasions. He may yet plaster Joshua before he's done, making Wilder 1-2-1 to Wlad's 0-2 against Wlad's two best opponents.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    Why did they duck Wlad? Because his team were not stupid, Wlad would of destroyed Wilder. Smart move was to keep the title and milk it, in that regard they did a good job and ensured Wilder made good money. Fans may not like it, but lets be honest did we really need to see Wlad abuse Wilder to know he was the best heavyweight in the world? I don't even remember much of a demand at the time for the fight, people just accepted Wlad was number 1 and Wilder was a nobody.
     
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  15. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    fear of death? XD