why do most amateur gyms don't use the speed bag?

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  1. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    most of the amateur gyms in canada no longer use the speed bag does anybody no if this occurs else where and why don't they use the speed bags?
     
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    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because they're useless, well not entirely, they make you look cool if a ***y lady walks in but other than that they're shite.
     
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    Good for a cool down exercise maybe. But I agree there isn't much benefit to them.

    People either get bored and stop using them. Or they never quite get the hang, and lose interest.
     
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    Speed bags are good. It just depends on how you work it. It also trains you to keep your hands up.

    It's a not a bad tool, but there are better tools. I agree with that.

    Old timers used to hit it once, and then again with the same hand, but with the back of their hand.

    I can see the benefit in that because it trains you to block punches coming in.

    I don't know......it is what you make of it.
     
  5. closedguard

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    Improved shoulder and arm strength and endurance are added benefits from regular speed bag training. If you are looking to add definition to your shoulders and arms, the speed bag is a great way to accomplish this goal! It is also a lot more fun than 87 sets of shoulder raises!
     
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    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I take it this was a joke/sarcasm?
     
  7. closedguard

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    nope! what the difference in lifting a heavy shoulder repeatedly or lifting light weights?
     
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    We have one at our gym but I never see anyone use it
     
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    Because f*ck that noise.
     
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    It's a common myth that high repetition low resistance exercises build definition. Definition is merely the amount of muscle in relation to body fat.
    The idea that muscles can take on a more defined or less defined 'shape' is nonsense. Muscles are gonna be the same shape no matter what. They only get larger or smaller. And doing light weights or low resistance, is one way to ensure that your muscles remain small.
    I feel sorry for all the people who believe this.
     
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    So the speed bag is pointless then?
     
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    Speechless Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you're looking to build definition, or any kind of muscle, or really any aesthetic improvement, then yes, it's completely useless.

    To build definition, you're much better off lifting heavy and leaning out - using cardio and improving your diet.
     
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    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're joking or incredibly ignorant on the subject of strength training and conditioning.
     
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    I agree that it can improve endurance though. Afterall, you are keeping your hands up.

    Personally, I like to hit it while bouncing on my feet.
     
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    One's maximum visual acuity is determined by the density of cones in the macula, an oval- shaped spot on the retina of the eye. Cone density in humans is akin to to the megapixel rating in digital cameras. Someone who scores 20/15 can stand at a distance of twenty feet and tell the difference between o and c that typical person, with 20/20 vision, could only detect if they scooted up to fifteen feet. Unfortunately the number of cones appears to be "genetically predetermined for each of us".

    Some athletes simply do have superior reactions speeds. In a 1969 test Muhammad Ali reacted to a light in 150 milliseconds, near the theoretical limit of visual reaction time. I'm beginning to think that the speed bag doesn't help at all in hand to eye coordination!