Why do people hate Amir Kahn?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Maxmomer, May 17, 2010.


  1. stake501

    stake501 Active Member Full Member

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    He should have fought him either pre zoo or post mayweather...simple. I dont think it affects hatton's legacy. You were complaining about khan, when the boy is still a puppy, and has achieved more than ricky did at the same stage! 24 fights or 23 years old.
     
  2. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't hate him but these are my views.

    The racism thing is pretty much crap. I recognize that there certainly are people who probably hate him because of his race but that's really no different than other fighters.

    What really sets people off in my opinion is that he has such a good team that he getsa kind of special treatment. What I mean by this is simply this: anyone else who gets KTFO by a C-level fighter in round 1 would have their career take a massive step back, his went right back on course, which is usually not what happens and people don't like that.

    Secondly, they dislike him because his fans will occasionally make excuses for him. For instance, they'll say he's wet behind the ears, he's too green, he's too inexperienced to take on top level competition, but the problem is that would be fine, except he has a belt and is getting covered as though he's a major star.

    The main and ultimate reason is simply because he was made a monster before he really ever arrived. This has been happening a lot in boxing in recent years and it makes fans calloused. Lacy was a star before he arrived(which he never did), Angulo, Berto, the list goes on as far as guys that TV companies such as HBO groom to be stars before they ever prove it.

    It should be noted that none of these things I listed are anything that Khan has done but something that others have made him into or thrust upon him.
     
  3. stake501

    stake501 Active Member Full Member

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    :patsch

    Jeez, thought he built a gym in his home town, and was the single reason why kids started going to amatur boxing again after Athens 2004. Didnt half the Beijing Boys want to emulate him?
     
  4. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I dont hate him....i just think he is overrated..getting knocked by prescott does not look good
     
  5. 02bash

    02bash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think its becuase he forgot to put the toilet seat up, and pissed everywhere and didnt even wipe the splashes of the seat.
     
  6. bigdan

    bigdan Guest

    racist people dont just hate muslims they hate any race other than there own, and boxing is quite a mxed race sport dont ya think think. its his over rated boxing that is disliked:bart
     
  7. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    I respect your views but racism is to do with it. It definetly has a major part. If you were around at the time of the Prescott loss, Khan was getting called a 'Paki', a 'terrorist' constantly on the Youtube comments. It was sickening and really put me off from clicking on the videos as the comments were that vile man. If you were in my position, you wouldn't like it either.

    I do agree he has had the 'special treatment' as you say but look at Mitchell. Who's he fought to date? He just got knocked out and no one is saying anything to him.

    Ricky Hatton made pointless defences of that WBU title of his and people jumped on his bandwagon well before. The unfairness is unreal.
     
  8. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It genuinely irritates me when people say that there is no substance to the idea that a lot of the hate Khan gets is due to racism.

    Is every Khan hater a racist? Of course not. However, does Khan receive more racial attacks than pretty much any other popular pro fighter? I believe so, yes. This is mainly due to being a brown-skinned Muslim in a social climate that has become particularly hostile towards Islam after the terrorism the country has recently experienced, as well as 9/11 incident in America. When people say that Khan receives just as much race hate as any other fighter, it's complete rubbish, and plainly untrue, and I can say that as a Brit that has followed his career since his amateur days. The spew of racism was particularly harsh after his defeat to Prescott, and it really is no wonder that he moved to train in America.

    As I said before, there are plenty of Khan haters who aren't racist at all -- I recognise this, and it would be foolish to deny it. But it really does seem that the brunt of the hate he receives IS related to his race and religion, sadly enough. People bring up Hamed, but Hamed was fighting -before- 9/11 took place, and even then he had a few unsavoury comments directed toward him and his religion -- Jim Lampley himself showed us this in the last round or two of the Barrera fight, and Foreman expressed his clear displeasure at his statements.

    Khan went to the Olympics for Britain, has the British flag up in Wildcard, and publicly condemned the terrorist attacks, and yet he's still dismissed as a 'paki' and 'dirty muslim' and such by so many of the British public. I personally find that very sad.
     
  9. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Well I have nothing against Pakistani dudes and I dont like em. **** em. He got a hot offense but I dont think he got champion intangibles. I cant imagine being a fan putting confidence in him. If he gets knocked out again say he is up on points. His fanboys will still ride his nuts. I dont see a great fighter in the making.
     
  10. SuperCoolEskimo

    SuperCoolEskimo New Member Full Member

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    A more pressing question: Why do people keep misspelling his surname?

    It's four letters FFS.
     
  11. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like I said, racism happens to multiple fighters. Even the lesser known ones. You bring up comments on youtube videos, well, that happens to everyone. You can look up Calzaghe vs. Lacy on youtube and see what you find. And you can also pull up Abraham vs. Mahir Oral and see what you find. Racism is everywhere therefore that reason doesn't put him ahead on anyone's most hated list.

    People are saying stuff about Mitchell. For him, it's the fallout against Katsidis that is catching up with him, and stateside Mitchell doesn't get near the pub that Khan gets. I guarantee you, if Mitchell's career doesn't take a major step back, and if he's right in the thick of things immediately, expect people to criticize him heavily. Also, at the moment does Mitchell have a title while be hailed as a top 3 fighter in his weight class? No. That could be another reason why.

    I have heard plenty of people criticize Ricky's defenses.
     
  12. Boinko

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    Keep in mind too that Olympic medalists often get hyped more than they deserve, and it can be a turn off for some fans. I've often wanted to see Olympic medalists who turn pro lose just to shut up the boxing media who loves to hype them.

    Of course, some medalists go on to great careers and prove they deserved the hype. If Kahn can go on to do that, i bet he'll win over some of the fans who are currently critical of him (others will just hate him no matter what).
     
  13. bigdan

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    :yep:yep
     
  14. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The difference there is that none of those example comments you just provided featured any blatant racial attacks. When I see those fighters being discussed on forums, Youtube, and such, I may see a lot of critique and bashing, but it's rarely connected to race. When it comes to Khan, though...

    You know, I just visited Youtube while reading this post, and this is the most recent comment left on one of the numerous Prescott/Khan videos:

    'ha ha you smelly cocky paki best fight ever ha ha ha '

    (This was only posted 12 hours ago.)

    Looking through the comments, here are some more:

    'That paki just got knocked the **** out lol the cocky ***** I so hate him....'

    '**** off back to pakistan Amir you **** end. '

    On another video of Khan (or some lookalike) dancing:

    '****ing PAKIIII ****S '

    'A new promotional video for Al Qaeda, at which point does the bomb go off?'

    'taliban'

    I can go on, but there is just endless amounts of material to sift through. I don't know about you, but when I browse Calzaghe's videos I rarely see 'lol welsh ****a, lol', or when I browse Klit's videos, I rarely see people attacking him on a racial basis, etc.

    As I said, I live in Britain, and I've followed Khan since his amateur days. I'm not going to sit here and let people dismiss the race issue as if it's insignificant, because it isn't, and it's a very real and sad thing on display right now. Even here on ESB, you could see Khan getting all sorts of racial attacks on the Malignaggi weigh-in thread, and you rarely see that much concentrated racial comments linked to a fighter on this forum.

    Once again, I stress that I know there are plenty of people who dislike him based on other factors, to do with his career, his attitude, etc, and I have no problem with these people or posters. But I still insist that I believe he is racially attacked more than any other famous pro fighter right now.
     
  15. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    He's a little two-faced. Tries playing as the good guy but clearly disrespects opponents and says stupid things. The whole thing with Froch on twitter. He comes off as immature and childish at times.

    He has an inflated undeserved ego. He's beyond deluded about how great he is, especially considering the lack of risks he has taken. He just has a false sense of his worth as a fighter. For some reason British fighters sometimes tend to be extremely deluded. Maybe it's in the water.

    He doesn't take risks, he fights scared a little. He covers up a lot defensively. He doesn't get into exchanges even against light punching fighters at times.

    What's funny about the racism comments is that the people who love him do so because of his race. That's the irony behind all of it.