Why do people hate Manny Pacquiao?

This pretty much sums it up.

 

Wow, I wasn't expecting this from gyll.

 

:rofl

 

No. It is the truth. *******s get the same facts repeated to them, observe the same avoidance of Team Pacfraud, and still defend nonsense. I provided support for my statement which was that Mike Tyson asked Holyfield to do extra testing. I also provided you a link to an article which lists MULTIPLE fighters who asked for extra testing.

Why do you ignore it? Because to accept the truth crushes your position.

Boxers are independent contractors. Special requests in Boxing are made all of the time, catch weights, gloves, ring size, testing, location, rematches, etc... His request for testing isn't made often, but it damn sure isn't unusual.

This thread contains multiple links to the lies from team Pacfraud. Again, why do you choose to ignore the evidence?

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=374843

Floyd made a REQUEST. If Pac wanted the fight, he tests. If Pac doesn't want the fight, he doesn't test. Pac didn't want the fight. Pac didn't test.

It is called Olympic testing for a reason. It is used by athletes.

They are pertinent because they show that things change. Saying, "It wasn't like that before!" is NOT a valid criticism of a sound and reasonable request.

Who cares if FMJ is serious. His request was fair and reasonable. Any clean fighter could have complied if he wanted the fight. Since the request, many fighters are requesting the same or similar protocols. So regardless how serious he was or not, the desired affect seems to have taken place. More fighters are requesting better testing.

The "lie" is you pretending that Boxing authorities have never relinquished authority for testing. The truth is presented to you yet you persist. I keep repeating over and over and over that Mike Tyson requested Holyfield do extra testing. Yet you keep ignoring it.

It is quite relevant. It destroys your nonsense line of reasoning that this request was so out of the ordinary that it should not be honored.

Who knows or cares if it is coincidence? Maybe FMJ did suspect the guy of cheating. He made a fair and reasonable request. On top of that he has continued to make this same request of all fighters who wish to face him.

Everybody else seems able to take the tests... Coincidence?

What nonsense are you talking about? Boxing doesn't work like a league. Boxers are free agents who are able to stage their fights as they wish as long as they adhere to a very loose protocol.

FMJ was more than within his rights to make the fair and reasonable request he made. This is further evidenced by the fact that he has made multiple fights since with this same request and other fighters are following suit.

Um no, it says that regardless of motive you can't be forced to fail a test you can pass. If someone sets up a math test of simple addition to screw you out of the job of a lifetime what matters? Their motives or your math skills? Assuming you can add, their motives are irrelevant.

Unspecified lies/excuses? WTF? There are links in this thread!
http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=374843

A fact it is not, but it damned sure is the reasonable conclusion. We are talking making a choice to make a fight not civil rights here. Don't go conflating this.

This is no different than a job you want to get asking for a drug test. You are well within your rights to refuse to drug test. You are not getting the job. The logical conclusion is either

A) you didn't want the job
B) you couldn't pass the tests

This has crap to do with being dictated to. If Pac didn't want to be dictated to he would have just said, "No. I will not do any test that isn't give by the commission." That would be the end of it.

Instead, Pac REPEATEDLY enters into negotiation in BAD FAITH. First 30 days, then 24 once busted on HBO 24 7. Next he "agrees" then Koncz says they offered a week cut off. Now he is willing to do any testing?

It shows Pac NEVER had a moral stance in this situation. This was all BS.

Car alarms are ineffective against professional car thieves, but that doesn't stop companies from installing them. Why? There is a CHANCE of effectiveness.

You keep talking about Floyd's request, but keep glossing over the request of Mike Tyson. Why? Holyfield tested, fought, and won. You also ignore the fact that MULTIPLE fighters have since requested that their opponents also do this same type of testing. Why?

This shows the request is both fair AND reasonable.

I am passionate about the truth.

It doesn't matter when a fair and reasonable request is made. The only requirement for credibility in this is in the lab equipment. The motiviations are irrelevant.

What the hell does you picking against Pac or any of that other nonsense have to do with this?

IF Pac WANTED to fight he would test.
If Pac DIDN'T WANT to fight he wouldn't test.
Pac DID NOT WANT to fight!

I don't need to be differentiated. How does one differentiate themselves from the TRUTH. You seem to conveniently ignore history.

1. Mike Tyson requested extra testing. He only did it for Holyfield to my knowledge. It wasn't an issue because Holyfield accepted. Why is Mayweather's request so unusual?

2. Many Boxers have since requested WADA based testing protocols be used for their fights. Obviously, the request is not so onerous that other fighters can't request/comply. Why is Pac special?

There is more than enough circumstantial evidence to show that Pac was the one who didn't want the fight.

 

*****s hate him because he ruined Floyd's legacy. Juanitas hate him because Juan went 1-3 against him. There are some Cottosexuals, Hattonhomos and Oscarsexuals who hate him because he beat their mancrushes. Real boxing fans like him and respect him though.

 

Sure...on ESB. Which has become a site for trolls, alt accounts, and fanboys... :dead

 

He's more likeable than Floyd. That's almost undeniable.

 

Pac has the mentality of a child especially when he was a FW. I don't think I've ever seen someone try to tap gloves as many times during a fight and immediately go back to thrashing his opponent as Pac did. That's why it's funny that tough guys like Barrera and Morales were getting belted by this kid who was probably playing with firetrucks and lego blocks backstage before they brought him out.

 

Nobody's touched on this. Is there anything specious in my reasoning? Pac's been attacked for not accepting Floyd's blood testing demands.

Pac 'n Floyd are big stars, Whether Olympic blood testing would be better for the sport , it isn't required currently. Why should Pac let Floyd dictate ANYTHING (it's the principle of the thing), 'n get a psychological edge, PR-wise coming off as boxing's white knight, 'n casting Pac as the villain.

They should confine terms to the financial split, ring size, gloves, wraps, trunks 'n who comes out first .

 

Spot on! And beautifully said, J

 

Marvin Hagler made this point in an interview at Canastota a few years ago.


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Great minds think alike, KC. Do guys on the thread agree?

 

i dont hate the guy do dislike his fans and people who call him the mexicutioner just saying

 

People love to hate the best because their jealous their making millions while their making only minimum wage. The majority are also racist towards Manny for no reason, Pacquiao didn't do anything.