Why do people have a hard time accepting that Tyson's resume...

You have a good point here.

You cannot be popular at HW if you cant punch for toffee, are overly defensive in the ring. Avoid the best challenges out there.

Tyson Fury is going to need to get a move on and face some serious opposition otherwise he will have a very weak legacy.

AJs top 5 wins in no particular order to date are

Wlad
Parker (undefeated champion)
Whyte (was undefeated at the time and since gone onto beat a number of elite HWs)
Povetkin (still a high level operator, but clearly past his best)
Martin (undefeated champion)

So he already has beaten two undefeated champions and another in Whyte who is clearly elite. Even if AJ retired tomorrow his resume would be superb. To take the belts off 2 undefeated champions and beat them for the first time, is something few HWs who are retired now can claim to have done.

 

Lol this thread is hilarious. Are you AJ fanboys getting cold feet over the Ruiz fight or something? You guys are letting Tyson Fury live in your heads rent free just settle down guys/girls.

 

If Fury is overrated then so is Joshua.

His best win isn’t as good as Fury’s best win and he’s lost to a fighter who was barely in anyone’s top 10.

 

His best win is comparable to Fury’s. Depends what you think about Wlad. Yes he’s older, but is he more motivated? In better shape?

The rest of the CV’s are chalk and cheese. Everyone else who Fury has beaten Joshua batters in a few rounds.

 

I think as time goes on the robbery narrative from the Fury Wilder fight gets weaker.

He was dropped twice and landed next to nothing. Whilst Wilder landed next to nothing either you have to accept that landing so few shots leaves you in danger of losing rounds. The Taylor Prograis fight demonstrated this. Prograis may have outlanded Taylor in a fair few rounds, but Taylor’s aggression and bigger punches won him those rounds. Tyson’s pit pat jabs, landed at a rate of five a round, are hardly impressive.

 

The Wlad win in hindsight isnt all that impressive. It was one of the most boring HW fights ever too, neither man barely landed anything. In hindsight it wasnt that impressive because Wlad was going through well documented personal issues at the time and he was already shot by then (the Jennings performance was the fight where he showed this despite winning).

Tony has dealt with the Wilder draw.

Boxing is also about entertainment. Tyson Fury in his two biggest fights has stunk the ring out, just managing to outland his opponents where he was overly defensive. In the Wilder case not good enough defensively to not be dropped twice, with the final one knocking him unconscious. This also cannot be ignored.

 

How could being defeated by a small blobby chap with a nice big pair of jittery bugs be better than the current undefeated Lineal World Heavyweight Champion?

 

I’ve decided I’ve got better things to do with my Saturday than argue with people who can’t be objective and go round and round in circles.

The fact is Fury beat a Wlad who hadn’t looked like losing in many years and was a dominant force in the division comfortably. AJ beat an older and more inactive version, who retired right after, and very nearly lost.

Fury beat Wilder according to any objective follower of boxing.

AJ has more depth but it’s hardly a murderers row, though other than Wilder there aren’t many other fighters he could’ve fought. But he’s been comprehensively defeated by a fighter who was barely in the heavyweight top 10.

 

They are equal levels of tripe as far as I'm concerned. Fury's lineal title holds as much value as whatever the coca cola cup is called these days

 

Another great post that rests entirely upon the fact that fighters cannot have an off night or improve between fights. Training is always the same. Condition is always the same.