Why do people say Tyson was visibly out of shape against Douglas?

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know that I've ever believed in the theory that having lots of *** before a major sporting event effected performance. Now going out until 3 AM in the morning, snorting cocaine, drinking booze AND sleeping with hookers all within days to the event could certainly have an impact. But getting your nob polished while resting in your hotel room a few hours before a fight shouldn't mean the difference between victory and defeat. In fact I would think it would result in the former.
     
  2. mcvey

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    I didn't know they did .He certainly wasn't focused on the fight though.Weights don't tell the whole story do they? It's well known Max Baer did negligible training for Braddock yet his weight was bang on.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I woul say from the way he fought.


    But yes that aside, he was mentally out of shape (ie invisibly).
     
  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Herol is a expert at being mentally out of shape so he would know :good
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    yet by your own words you'd need to be to know I was one. self-FLOP mate.
     
  6. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    I was guessing :p

    self Flop mate :good
     
  7. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Tyson does not fit your definition, then name some "on top" fighters.
     
  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Better yet, why don't you name some! Maybe post Rooney there was a fighter who cut corners in training, but then against Ruddock that certain fighter was able to turn the ride when in trouble. In other words Tyson was certainly capable of back and forth warfare and didn't fold every time he couldn't KO his opponent early.
     
  9. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very true. Very few HW s in history could deal with Douglas that night. On fire.
     
  10. UFC2015

    UFC2015 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Credit must be given to douglas, he came into the fight determined to take the fight to Tyson from the go ahead, not scared of dying literally, very smart fight

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  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    if u r guessing then you that's an admission that don't know. self flop either way for you, why do you enjoy creating double headed flops?
     
  12. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    self flop mate, you just admitted you were mentally out of shape whereby I already knew I was :deal

    that was a double headed flop where both ends went right up your ass :rasta
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    how is considering BOTH options, an admission? an admission would be ONE option.


    FLOPPED em again, Josey.
     
  14. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    you confused the options,

    self flop mate :good