Why do people think Wlad would beat Dempsey?

Willard today would be considered the 3rd weakest challenger of Klitschko's reign. (surpassed by Mormeck & Pianeta)

Wach, debatable.

 

You are wrong once again. Artificial built up gym strenght is not raw , natural , brute strenght developed from a lifetime of tough manual labour.

Wlad never out muscled a guy his own size. Sanders threw around like a boy and so did little Sam Peter. He didn't even trust his own strenght against 20 pound lighter Povetkin and jumped his back just to make sure.

A guy like Dempsey would rip into Wlad like a terrier and break his fragile body with the first few blows he lands.

 

That was the best version of Wlad that fought Povetkin. That is his complete game. He fought like that against Mormeck and Haye and he would of done the exact same to Povetkin at any other stage of his career.

Its the same **** everytime Wlad get blown out or looks bad. 'He wasn't on his best'. Coming into this fight Wlad was considered to be at the peak of his career.

 

Look, deliberately picking a fight where a 38-year old Klitschko looks bad and comparing it to a fight where the 24-year old Dempsey looked his absolute best is not a fair comparison.

In the same way, it would be unfair to pick the fight against Tunney where Jack was 31 and looked bad to compare against e.g. Wlad's fight against Chambers where he was 35 and looked pretty good.

The point is: you can't compare how two fighters would match up by arbitrarily comparing fights like that and claim you've made a coherent argument as to who would be who in their prime.

 

Only ******ed nut-huggers think Vlad stands a chance against prime Dempsey. People who don't kiss Vlad's ass on a daily basis think Jack shatters Vlad's glass.

 

Well, let's look at half a dozen sports where toughness, athleticism, preparation, IQ and power matter: 100m sprint, marathon running, pole vaulting, high jump, tennis, soccer.

All of these disciplines existed 100 years ago. Nobody in their right mind would argue tennis players from 100 years ago would beat a top 10 player from today. Or a marathon runner from 1920 would beat a modern day marathon runner. Or a 100m sprinter from 1910. You get the picture?

Isn't it hilarious that boxing is the only sport that brings out braindead armchair experts who claim an athlete from 100 years ago would beat a current world-class athlete 'easily'? :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

If you think that 100m sprint, marathon running, pole vaulting, high jump, tennis, and soccer are comparable to boxing, you have no IQ whatsoever.

 

Oh, so in every sport on the planet we have gigantic advances in performance over the last 100 years. Just not so in boxing, right? In boxing the time stood still right, athletes from 100 years ago would be competitive with their modern day peers

This is hilarious, boxing really has the dumbest fans of all sports.

 

Boxers 100 years ago would fight for 2 hours straight.

HWs today can barely fight the sanctioned 12 rounds. Other sports have nothing to do with anything.

 

Both Klitschko brothers would murder Dempsey. They are taller, stronger, bigger, smarter and more skilled than 20'th centuries HW...

 

Throw in a neutral referee and Dr Grabimir wouldn't last two rounds.

 

The size and reach advantage would be too much for Dempsey. He was a terrific fighter, a true brawler, but I don't know how much success he'd have with a prime Wladimir if he decided to stick to his basic boxing techniques and just fight off his jab all night.

Than again, I could easily see Dempsey rocking him with overhand shots and knocking him out, but all in all I think the size, weight and reach disparity might be too much for the Manassa Mauler. I'd call it a 60-40 fight in favor of Wladimir, as much as I hate to say that.

 

I respectfully disagree. I think a Prime Ali (predraft) would outbox him and continue throwing punches off his backfoot and flurries in different angles.

I also think a 70's version of Foreman would knock out Wladimir in destructive fashion. I don't believe Wlad's jabs would bother Foreman too much from wanting to come in and engage him in the pocket.

I also think Shavers, with his ferocious punching power, would make for a very hard fight for Wlad. Wladimir's chin is well known to be shaky at best, and Shavers could end the night with one flush shot.

And mid 80's Tyson would have to be favored against Waldimir, even though he'd be giving up so much in size and reach, tyson knew how to bob and weave his way into the pocket to land his shots.

 

He said PRE-50'ies.

 

^^I misread it. If that's the case, I'd favor a prime Joe Louis over Wladimir.