Why does everyone say SRR was the best of all time

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nawfal, Aug 26, 2007.


  1. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Rip him to pieces? are you for real? or are you on crack? either way take a deep breath and rethink what you just said, SRR left hook alone would disable floyd!:tired Oh, and by the way, what Sweet Pea said about joe being nothing but a bum for a tune up, I find it insulting also, but I also find you saying floyd would "rip" SRR to pieces insulting also!
     
  2. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rip too pieces might be a little over the top Amsterdam, that would describe what Calzaghe does to Greb better.
     
  3. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Still counting the times you contradicted yourself in 4 sentences!:lol:
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have a desire to educate the Calzaghe doubters. Why would I have been pissed off?
     
  5. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Beautifully put!:lol:
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Totally different set up. It's hilarious how this is used when I point out lacks in speed and timing, which were Roy's greatest gifts. Roy's punching technique was also much sharper, his footwork and lateral movement in another realm.

    Roy for the most part worked off of a pin point jab as well, he left his hands down for show, but his technical skill was top notch.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy Jones is maybethe best fast-twitch muscle fibre athlete the sport has ever seen.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Okay then, how about poor footwork, positioning and head movement in comparison to Jones? How about plain speed?

    Not to mention the timing difference. In which then I was comparing that to Floyd vs. someone with that set up and bad technique but great timing, I wasn't saying that he'd be entirely ineffective. I also noted the speed difference between Ray and Floyd for referrance.

    Can you not see the obvious?:think
     
  9. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    you said floyd would rip SRR to pieces, yet you also said SRR was the best technically? do you actually know what your on about, and as for SRR being alot slower than floyd, thats bull****, Floyd would eat so much leather he would think he was a horse saddle after the fight!
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Watch video's of each closely, you will see the difference between sloppier punches, to crisp, pin point punches.

    I clarified this in the above post.

    Roy at times worked off of the jab well and he had a great jab. He could get away with lead shots and he did, because of his speed and timing, which was perhaps the best ever seen in the sports history. But again, the type of punching is different from Ray's, who's timing and speed is not in that realm at all either.

    Roy also never initiated combinations from positions where he was vulnerable to be countered, his footwork and timing was just phenominal and allowed this, Ray's sqaured up in ways when he has guys up against the ropes where you can literally hit him with anything and even his standard defensive stance is awful, for modern boxing that is. Roy used an effective guard when he needed.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I meant 'technically' he's the best fighter ever, in according to ranking him, not according to his skills.
     
  12. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was 36 years old when he fought Basillio highly past his prime. Calzaghe has resume is **** compared to Ray Robinson's.
     
  13. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    So you still think Floyd would rip him to pieces? If you believe that your a delusional *******!:patsch
     
  14. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is your argument to support the claim of Robinson being number one?

    Are you implying Calzaghe has the second best resume of all time?
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Well I'm noting poor footwork by watching his video's, completely open minded for that matter, if you can prove me wrong then do so.

    Low hands have nothing to do with positioning, Ray would however be positioned with low hands in a negative way, leaving him open for just about anything, where as Roy always had great use of tactical positioning and utilised his speed and timing, plus footwork to ensure that counter punches would be a minimal issue. If Roy squared up like Ray however, he'd have had his head taken off.

    And the speed is not even remotely comparable, again, watch the video's in comparison. Roy is quicker than Calzaghe shot for shot and Calzaghe is almost blazing quicker with his hands and feet than Ray, so that says something about comparing the speed.

    You can say 'by all accounts', that's still coming from accounts from within that era, when the fans and oberservers did not have the comparison through time that we have of different generations.