Why does Floyd get no credit for his victories above Welter??

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  1. Miles5149

    Miles5149 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes it does, Hatton has proved that at welterweight he's nothing special. Just cause you're natural at a weight class doesn't mean you can't step up. Calzaghe a natural SMW beat a top 5 P4P in Hopkins at LHW. De La Hoya went up to 160 from JMW and got beat by Hopkins and got a gift against Sturm. Some people can do it, some can't. Mayweather can, as he beat DLH at 154. Hatton can't.
     
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    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    See you seem to think Hatton had extra poundage when he fought Mayweather. He didn't. Hatton weighed 160 when he fought Collazo.

    When he fought Mayweather he weighed 154. That's what he normally weighs on fight night as a JR WW.
     
  3. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So just beacuse Mayweather can do it and Hatton cant thats an excuse to discredit his victory?
     
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    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Oh come on,don't come with that weighs more on fight night thing,everybody knows Hatton walks around 180-185,Floyd walks around 159-160,that doesn't matter.Hatton fight was nothing in the WW division
     
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    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It means if he was a real motha****a he would have fought Hatton at JWW
     
  6. Miles5149

    Miles5149 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah and he proved in both of those fights he should not be fighting at WW. Like I said some can move up and do fine and some can't. I give credit to Mayweather for his win against Hatton. But it's not as big as some people make it out to be.
     
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    Miles5149 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I give credit for his victory over Hatton no doubt. But it's not even close to one of his top wins.
     
  8. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    but it made more sense to fight at welter since it would be for Mayweathers wbc 147 belt...
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Being completely objective, Judah, Hatton, and Hoya were all good wins. Bladomir was a solid win because of his status at the time.
     
  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol: Floyd doesn't walk around at 160.
     
  11. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It would have made sense at 140 cuz it would have been for the linear 140 lb title.
     
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    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes he does you idiot,he was at a party recently and said he was 158 and a half but in shape.He was 159 at the weigh-in for the Big Show ''fight''
     
  13. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it was for the linear title at 147 too...
     
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    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    They sure did and I was here back then when the debates would go on.:good
     
  15. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Exactly,it favored Mayweather cuz he was at WW longer,felt better there,as Ricky is **** at WW cuz he doesn't carry the weight good,Floyd would have died to make 140 and would have favored Ricky at 140