Why does no one call out GoldenBoy on their hypocrisy?

BigReg · May 11, 2010

jazzysoul06 said: ↑

It does when GBP (Oscar/Schaefer) are now reversing their position on NSAC and saying that if Manny has nothing to hide, to take the test.

And they are promoting Floyd.
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Mayweather is not a GBP fighter. He never took a stance against strigent testing. If u want to bash GBP for backing him, fine. However, there is no hypocrisy on Mayweather's part. He's not Golden Boy, he's not am employee of GBP.

jazzysoul06 · May 11, 2010

markrigh said: ↑

There is something very fishy going on about FMJ and GBP.

Mayweather Sr lauched the PED rumor because Hatton lost in a humiliating way to Pacquiao. Nothing new here since Mayweather Sr has a big ego.

Then Pacquiao demolished Cotto. Malignaggi starts to spread the rumor too in order to get a shot at Pacquiao. That's is still undestandable.

But FMJ started to join the heated debate by stating something like: "the Philippines are known to produce the best PEDs on the planet"!!! Where did he get the info from?

And why would he spread this rumor without any evidences? He probably wasn't ready to fight Pacquiao (despite all the pressure) because he needed another tune-up fight. Very understandable since Pacquiao at welterweight is a much more dangerous opponent than JMM.

So with the help of GBP, FMJ used delaying tactics and the PED testing was there to provide an honorable exit, knowing perfectly that Pacquiao will refuse any compromise (Pacquiao has an ego too).

The only thing i don't understand is: why did GBP followed FMJ in this PED testing affair when themselves refused additional testing in the past?

The answer probably lies in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO8h04Xmgps
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I've long been a believer that the reasons that Mayweather's camp is jumping on Manny about the PED thing is for the reasons you said involving Sr. (Hatton getting destroyed) and the fact that when Floyd "retired", he was considered far and away the #1 P4P guy.

Once he left, Manny rose up and everyone was saying he was the #1 guy, even though Floyd had already beaten the two guys Manny defeated.

So Floyd was upset at that, and started this whole steroids thing to diminish what Manny has done.

I'm not a fan of Manny or Floyd, but it seems obvious to me what's going on.

Floyd hasn't even had to fight Manny, and he's already got people questioning what Manny's accomplished.

jazzysoul06 · May 11, 2010

BigReg said: ↑

Mayweather is not a GBP fighter. He never took a stance against strigent testing. If u want to bash GBP for backing him, fine. However, there is no hypocrisy on Mayweather's part. He's not Golden Boy, he's not am employee of GBP.
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Re-read the title of this thread. I'm not calling Floyd out on hypocrisy. But Floyd IS co-promoted by GBP.

Rudyard · May 11, 2010

VecArrow said: ↑

It's all about the revenue.
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Off Topic,NO OFFENSE but thats an ugly ass baby!:-(

Back on topic...As one poster said, **** happens and also, Floyd is not even a Golden Fighter.

markrigh · May 11, 2010

jazzysoul06 said: ↑

I've long been a believer that the reasons that Mayweather's camp is jumping on Manny about the PED thing is for the reasons you said involving Sr. (Hatton getting destroyed) and the fact that when Floyd "retired", he was considered far and away the #1 P4P guy.

Once he left, Manny rose up and everyone was saying he was the #1 guy, even though Floyd had already beaten the two guys Manny defeated.

So Floyd was upset at that, and started this whole steroids thing to diminish what Manny has done.

I'm not a fan of Manny or Floyd, but it seems obvious to me what's going on.

Floyd hasn't even had to fight Manny, and he's already got people questioning what Manny's accomplished.
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Initially, Floyd insisted about the testing because he needed more time to get prepared againt someone like Pacquiao.

But then he realized by diminishing Pacquiao achievments, he would gain more leverage in the negociations when the real fight would come. It's all about the benjamins i'm afraid!

Bee KeepZ · May 11, 2010

Schaefer did say that he was now the new "Anti-Doping Advocate" and that he was going to present their case to NSAC...and five months later still nothing.

jazzysoul06 · May 11, 2010

Bee KeepZ said: ↑

Schaefer did say that he was now the new "Anti-Doping Advocate" and that he was going to present their case to NSAC...and five months later still nothing.
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I'm sure he'll get around to it.

GMontoya · May 11, 2010

jazzysoul06 said: ↑

I wrote a piece about this on another site, and I'm kinda irritated that nobody even talks about this in all the many articles that are out there dealing with the Manny/Floyd negotiations pertaining to the drug testing.

Now, without taking either side on this, why is it that NOBODY brings this up to Oscar and Schaefer and ask them why they're being flaming hypocrites?

You can read the entire piece HERE but the basics are this:

1. When Zab Judah was going to fight Shane Mosley back about two/three years ago, Judah demanded Shane take a blood test, due to his admission that he took PED's prior to the DLH fight.

Shane agreed to do this, but Golden Boy refused, with Schaefer stating the following quote: "We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires. The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one."

So here you have Golden Boy defending Shane against a non GBP fighter, saying that not only is Shane NOT a cheater and shouldn't be treated like one, but that "we are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires."

2. Now you have Floyd (promoted by GBP) demanding Manny to take a blood test, and suddenly Golden Boy's faith in NSAC is devastated and they suddenly want something more. Something that they summarily dismissed the idea of just two years ago.

And I asked in that piece, that while Shane was allowed to take the tests for the Floyd fight, I wonder if Floyd was NOT repped by GBP would they allow it? And what does it say about GBP that they refused back then to allow Shane to do it, but now they're all for it? The only thing that's changed is Floyd.

I've only seen two other place even address this (The Scene, and Seconds Out) but everyone else seems to be **** scared to upset GBP lest they lose their credentials and access or something.

Damn disgraceful. This isn't about who's side you're on as far as the drug testing, it's all about inconsistency and outrageous hypocrisy on Golden Boy's part.

And the fact that they're now big enough to where no one dares ask them about it, is shameful.
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Myself and Steve Kim brought it up.

It's real clear, and I've written this as well as Steve, GBP is not trying to clean up boxing at all.

What they are is a company without a marquee star and an inability to develop talent.

I said this as far back as the DLH/Floyd fight. All that fight was about in the end was a business deal. Similar to Hopkins/DLH. Floyd is a helluva free agent and they needed to be in the Floyd business so if he wants his opponents to dye their skin green in case of a loss to him, GBP will back it. They'll do anything to have him. Including sacrifice a lightweight Marquez and Shane.

FORMIDABLE · May 11, 2010

GBP are just another scummy promotional company. They don't believe in ethics, fair play, etc.. they only believe in doing what will guarantee them the most money at the time. I wish their hypocrisy in the Pac-Mayweather situation would get more attention, but what can you do?

bald_head_slick · May 11, 2010

Why does anything get done in boxing? Leverage. I am a die hard Judah fan, but he didn't have leverage.

As a promoter you represent your client not the issue. As much as I hate Arum, he is doing a A+ job representing Manny's interests. Just like a lawyer.

AFBlues · May 11, 2010

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jazzysoul06 · May 12, 2010

GMontoya said: ↑

Myself and Steve Kim brought it up.

It's real clear, and I've written this as well as Steve, GBP is not trying to clean up boxing at all.

What they are is a company without a marquee star and an inability to develop talent.

I said this as far back as the DLH/Floyd fight. All that fight was about in the end was a business deal. Similar to Hopkins/DLH. Floyd is a helluva free agent and they needed to be in the Floyd business so if he wants his opponents to dye their skin green in case of a loss to him, GBP will back it. They'll do anything to have him. Including sacrifice a lightweight Marquez and Shane.
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Has anyone ever asked them about it at a Presser or teleconference or anything? I mean, obviously not in a dickmove way although I'm not sure if there IS a non-dickmove way to do that. lol

I'd love to hear their response. Maybe it will be the "we represent the client not the issue" thing or whatever, I just would be interested in seeing how they respond to that.

It appears that this story is getting more notice because I've seen a few people on various boards bring this up. Now if it'd just get the ESPN people and others talking.

I wonder if it IS the fear of losing credentials that has people just going along with it.

I mean, I read a story the other day about this reporter who KNEW Tiger Woods was bangin' chicks on the road, and he didn't say anything because if you get blacklisted from Tiger you're essentially done.

And now that everyone knows, he has a book coming out. lmao.

LukeO · May 12, 2010

No one thinks GBP is a classy organization.

KERRIGAN · May 13, 2010

This is a great thread. :good

JLocs · May 13, 2010

get over it jazzy

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