Why does weight class matter in Pac-JMM? It doesn't! Evidence.

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have no clue what carrying weight means. Please log off. There's a detailed explanation post above yours. Carrying weight = bulking up, JMM doesnt need to bulk up, hes simply fighting his normal weight except not dehydrating, which is exactly what Pac is doing.

    Yes, Im sure 2years and 3months of steroid abuse couldnt have put much weight on him :lol:

    Here's one for you, within 2 years, PBF managed to go from LW to WW. You dont think within 2 years of retirement he would have gone up quite a bit of weight, enough so that he initially agreed to 144 and found out "oh ****, im bigger after 2 years, cant make the weight for ****!".
     
  2. Fighting Pride

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    One thing is for sure, this will be the best Pacquiao Marquez will have faced. First fight was Pac challenging Marquez at his prime weight, second fight they were more on even terms. This fight is Marquez challenging Pac at his best weight. If Marquez truly has the style to beat Pacquiao there is much more to gain with the fight being at 144. Imagine Marquez is as competitive as he was at 126-130, he will forever be Pac's equal
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    People crying about the weight are desperate idiots and will be the first to call this a pointless fight when it happens regardless of weight. It's simple, if Marquez wants to beat the man that beat him all he has to do is move up and make the fight. Pacquiao doesn't need Marquez nor is he the one with a loss to avenge.
     
  4. itliangladiator

    itliangladiator Active Member Full Member

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    Not too mention that Pacman has fought around this weight for 5 fights I think. This will be the second time that Marquez has fought at this weight and the first time, albeit it was against a great fighter, he looked very sluggish. I honestly think that the fight should have been at 140 that way Pac would come down a little bit and and Marquez would come up a bit as well. Just my opinion though. I understand your point about dehydration but Pac is naturally more built and muscular than Marquez and that makes a difference.
     
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    Michiganwarrior is FLOORING you all !
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    :lol:


    Again you're a moron. First it was 5 years, now Floyd significantly gained a bunch of mass in a mere 2 years, after spending 3 years at welter weighing virtually the same thing every night. :lol:

    goodbye, wasted enough time on your stupidity. Nobodies going to respond to your post.
     
  7. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fool, Ive been boxing for 7 years and bodybuild for longer. I know exactly about weights.

    Well what are you asking for? You are saying dehydrating makes you a weaker fighter...I agree. Hence why Pac doesnt wanna dehydrate. JMM dehydrates, it makes him a weaker fighter. Solution, dont dehydrate!

    Normally that kind of scenario doesnt play out well, because for example, if JMM didnt dehydrate and weighed in at 145 instead and fought at 147, his opponent would be weighing in 147 and fighting at 155. Pac on the other hand is exactly in the same boat as JMM, hes gonna be within 3lbs of JMM fight night and weigh in.

    The key point here is, neither needs to dehydrate, neither needs to bulk up to the weight and worry if they can carry it and neither will be at a massive weight advantage. This is effectively a 135lb and a 138lb fighter fighting at 144lb BUT neither guy is forceably trying to add extra bulk so they weigh more fight night, they simply come in around their fight night weight.
     
  8. brassgod

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    Why don't you counter his argument with solid scientific medical research proof?

    I'm talking published papers in well established journals. :deal
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because he had to bulk up for that weight...that is what carrying weight is all about. In this instance, he doesnt need to bulk up in weight, cos his opponent will weigh the same regardless. He just has to not dehydrate himself...which is a good thing.

    If I usually weigh in 135lb and fight night hydrate to 145lb, my natural weight is 145lb. However, I dont fight at 145lb because my opponents would hydrate to 155lb. So if I wanted to fight at 145lb, id BULK up to 145lb, that is forceably adding weight, so then on fight night I myself weigh 155lb. Now this is where the term "carrying weight" comes from, how much has much physical attributes improved relative to the weight?

    In this scenario, I dont need to bulk up. If I come in at 145lb, I will weigh in at 145lb and fight at 145lb. Im not dehydrated, feel stronger AND my opponent doesnt outweigh me by 10lbs.
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    FOOL! I weight lift too. I read all sorts of nutrition books and subscriptions to fitness mags and I've been paying competitive sports since I was young.


    and even I know just because 2 people weigh the same doesnt mean they have the same build, muscularity, strength, speed and endurance.

    Guess what dope, Paul Williams can fight at heavyweight. Do you think he is as strong as Chris Arreola? :rofl
     
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  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He doesnt have an argument. I presented facts, its the truth, its up to everyone else to counter it.

    Both will weigh in the near the same on fight night, thats enough proof for me. I could see the argument for JMM if JMM had to bulk up in order to be the same weight fight night, as that extra bulk he would have to carry. However, he doesnt need to bulk therefore there is no extra weight to carry, just his usual weight which is the same as Pac's.
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When did PW weigh in at HW? He can weigh in at HW but he would need to bulk up 70lbs...how well will he carry that 70lbs bulk...I dont know. Chances are, not very well. Thats why its not his natural weight, cos he has to FORCE his body to move up to that weight.

    JMM doesnt need to bulk up ****, he will carry the same weight he does for this fight as he does at LW come fight night. He doesnt need to force his body to add weight and worry if he can carry that extra weight...he doesnt need to cos his opponent wont outweigh him by more than 3lb.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

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    Typical of a moron. Present bull**** and expect everyone else to counter it. :lol:
     
  15. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey, to quote your boyfriend:

    "Men lie, women lie, numbers dont lie" - Pac weighs the same as JMM :rofl