Why doesnt Wlad hold the "Ring" belt at Heavy?

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  1. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The sky is falling OMG!!!!!:shock:
     
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    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Think what you want. Pacman is immensly popular and doesn't hold the Ring Belt. Judah wasn't and held it.
     
  3. Illmatic

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    :patsch what is so hard about following the Rings rules? they are clear as day and easy to follow....i guess it gets lost in translation to europeans.

    Judah was RING champ by beating undisputed champ Spinks, who became undisputed champ by beating mayorga.

    get it? to be the man, beat the man.

    Pac is not the ring champ at 130, b.c he vacated his ring belt at 126, fought the #2 at 130 3 times, but never the #1 (barrera) until now, when Barrera is no longer the #1.

    Wlad wasn't #1 when he fought Peter, and Peter wasn't #2 when he fought Wlad, so therefore it wasnt for the ring belt.

    what is so difficult?
     
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    my bad kg...i misread your post
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No prob :good

    The rules are simple and it has nothing to do with Americans or non Americans or even popularity.

    I mean Calzaghe has the Ring belt....Hopkins only got it because he beat Tarver, who beat Jones who had it because he unified the big 3 belts.
     
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    Im more American than you TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well regardless, it has to do with the rules of Ring Magazine, and nothing to do with popularity.

    Each fighter that has a Ring belt got it going through those rules and some popular fighters own the belt, and some unpopular fighters own the belt.

    If it was about popularity, Spinks wouldn't be rated ahead of DLH. Pacman would have the 130 title, etc.
     
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    My final conclussion.

    The Ring top 10 is a good source.

    The Ring Championship is flawed.<<Another trincket though stronger than most still a trincket!
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All the belts have flaws. Even the old ones when it was just one belt. Ezzard Charles never being LHW champion is proof of that.
     
  10. DamonD

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    Awarding Wlad the Ring belt out of the blue rather than winning it in the ring would be ridiculous.
     
  11. JAM Killer

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    Because he hasn't unified dummy, you can't be the man until you unify, or beat the man that did.
     
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    Who ever is holding the most belts when the smoke clears should be the ring champ, to get heavywieght boxing on track the belt holders need to fight other belt holders plain and simple.
     
  13. Drew101

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    Well, it just shows that there's precedent for the fact that the best fighter in a division often isn't the reigning champion. Like it or not, Lesnivich was the reigning LH champion when Charles was tearing through the LH ranks in the 40's. For that matter, Robinson was the best welterweight of the 40's, but had to wait for a couple of years before he got a shot at the actual championship, even though his predecessor, Marty Servo, had already lost to him twice.

    Wlad's certainly the best fighter in the heavyweight division right now, but, until he fulfills the criteria by beating the Peter/Maskaev winner...or, whomever is #3 at the time, he's not the RING champ. Simple as that.
     
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    He should, he is beating one US fighter after another.
     
  15. PolishPummler

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    Arent we supposed to look to the Ring as to who is the Champ and dont people claim that the Ring Champ is way more legit than the ABC's.If some people dont recognise the ABC's then why unify them to prove your "Ring Championship"worth.

    The "Ring" belt is no better than any other trincket belt.