Why don't Tyson and Holyfield take Lewis Seriously

Can you imagine Lewis trying to hold a prime Tyson or Holyfield with one glove while he sized up his uppercut, like he did to Bruno and Grant. Hell he should have been disqualified for doing that to Grant.

 

I will say the Mercer fight Lewis did show he had some guts and ability to fight inside albeit limited compared to a Holyfield and Tyson sorry. Cant agree with you there.

 

Actually Tyson was more of a mid range fighter and was basically **** when it came to infighting skills. He rarely held he rarely pushed fighters back or anything normally associated with inside fighting skills. Hell you want to see a great inside fighter, just to demontsrate the difference, watch Duran.

If you watched Lewis fighting Tyson, there's no way in hell you can agree that Tyson is a better inside fighter. Lewis manhandled him, threw upper cuts and pretty much destroyed him as Tyson tried to get to mid range.

 

No argument there about the legality, but whoever he hit with that punch was going to go down. Holyfield headbutted, Tyson tried breaking fighters arms, so let's not pretend everyone fighting is a priest.

 

And Lewis got knocked the **** out very shortly after that.....so your point is?

There's articles available on the internet which show Manny Steward. Lewis trainer, telling Holyfield he seriously needs to retire before he suffers any long term injuries, this was around '98.

Do you know more than Manny Steward?

 

Seriously you want to compare the corpse that Tyson was against Lewis to the disciplined defensive master he was in his prime? No no no, we cant talk about these two fighters this way. Tyson was a shell when he faced Lewis. Tyson was very much an inside fighter, his whole modus was to get inside and fight inside, he had short arms and threw good uppercuts and hooks. In his prime he had a hell of a jab and good footwork and defensvie skills too. Lewis would have been outclassed against that Tyson, too many holes in his game. It worked against the likes of David Tua and Shannon Briggs, but wouldnt have worked against prime versions of Tyson or Holyfield. I think Bowe would have whooped him too.

 

What can I say, I think round 1 of their ACTUAL FIGHT, showed pretty much exactly how and prime for prime encounter would unfold, and Lewis rocked him. And if Bowe "would have whooped him" then he should have fought him when he had not only the change to fight him, but a legal obligation to do so, and yet he ducked.

 

Firstly Tyson was a sh it inside fighter, he was at his most dangerous on the way in at mid range. Slipping jabs and nailing guys as he came forward was his stock in trade.

Secondly Bowe would have no clue how to take the distance away from Lewis, he'd be eating too many jabs.

Thirdly don't be such a fuking idiot. Neither Mercer or Lewis made the other one look stupid. That was a very good fight that could have gone either way.

 

:roll::roll:

Then its a shame you can't ask Steward why if he was so concerned for Holy's health in 98, he allowed Lewis to fight him twice a year later, isn't it?:nut

 

And don't forget Lewis' point deduction against Tyson !

 

Holyfield started like light-heavyweight.

 

True Lewis looked good against mental collapsed or faded fighters.
And he could manhandle this version Tyson by holding.
But why did Lewis step back in the first round like a chicken when
he was so good infighter against Tyson ?
Lewis was a **** infighter. When he was trouble against
Briggs he showed some coward runner skill in the first round.
Yes Tyson was so **** infighter he could outland Ruddock easily
through 12 full nearly pure infighting rounds.Basically they (Tyson
and Ruddock ignored the jabs.)
When did Lewis win a fight by pure infighting ?
The holding isn't fighting. I think he stepped back against the
fat Tua like a coward.
The infight is based on the short punches.Just an unimformed
man can say Lewis had dangerous short punches.
He's best punch was his right hand. Just a blinded Steward worshippers can believe Lewis was better infighter than a good versionTyson.Who could beat a pre-prison Tyson by pure infighting?
What did Lewis against the faded Ruddock to his lucky punch?
Your great infighter danced around the ring like a fool.

 

1. Grant is taller than Lewis and glass-chinned.Obviously Grant
wasn't problematic.

2Against Klitschko his uppercut was useless it wasn't knock down or ko.
Klitschko outlanded the prime Lewis easily.Lewis win is based
on the lucky cut.His uppercut influenced nothing.
3.I think the drug stopped the slow Tyson . Tyson was an easy target. The prime 27 years old Ruddock can't stop Tyson by his
best punches.I hope you don't wanna say the aging Lewis could
punch harder than a 27 years old prime Ruddock.

 

Well I'll give you one thing. Posts don't come much more stupid than than the one you posted here. We are saying Lewis didn't need to in fight ( this is probably due to two reasons )

1. He is 6' 5" with an 84" reach.

2. He is at his most dangerous from range.

NO ONE has claimed he was good at in fighting, rather people are claiming he didn't need to.

When he hit Tyson, and YES Vitali as well with uppercuts, they were as they were on the WAY IN to him, not from the inside. Mid range shots.

 

Yes Tyson is younger than Lewis.Just you forget some differences
Lewis had only 44 fights and Tyson had 58.
Plus Tyson won his first world title fight in 1986 and Lewis did this in 1993.
Can you imagine a fighter who can be prime between 1986-2000 or 2005 including prison time and health,trainer etc problems ?
Otherwise your Lewis age excuse is ridicolous when Lewis' last
fight was the vitali and Lewis was only 37 years old.Considering
the 38+ years old Wladimir can rule the world or the 42 years old
fat Holmes could beat the prime Mercer much more easier than Lewis.
Lewis wasn't old against Tyson he was aging but he was in
his 100% prime. lewis was **** young fighter but this isn't Tyson's
fault.Obviously Lewis' prime was later than Tyson's.That's all.
But i think you haven't age problem when Lewis beat a 37 years
old Holyfield or a 40 years old Weaver.