Why has Canelo deflated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Liquorice, Sep 12, 2018.

  1. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,515
    Likes Received:
    7,685
    A simple restraining order on livestock would have sufficed
     
  2. boxfan99

    boxfan99 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2006
    Messages:
    2,494
    Likes Received:
    103
    Come on guys Cleanelo is and has always been clean, he just loves his beef can't blame the guy
     
    IsaL likes this.
  3. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,515
    Likes Received:
    7,685
    Second only to Thurman for inactivity
     
  4. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2012
    Messages:
    12,195
    Likes Received:
    8,408
    No conspiracy, it's true that just because you're signed up for VADA, does not mean they test you. It just means 24/7 they can show up at any time to test you.
     
    kriszhao and Liquorice like this.
  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2006
    Messages:
    50,648
    Likes Received:
    18,377
    Right.. You seem to be suggesting Canelo wasn't tested, or am I mistaking?
     
  6. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,515
    Likes Received:
    7,685
    Yes it's a total conundrum why this multi millionaire native of Mexico (a nation who's beef is widely known to be chewing the good stuff!) who employs dieticians, nutritionists & chefs & whose occupation requires stringent, organised & regimented food intake would consume the bovine equivalent of Mr Olympia! Being a Mexican, from Mexico, speaking the lingo n all that, u know, he must not have known.. That & the fact that he had a neck like Tyson & track marks more prominent than Kalle Sauerlands Friday night escort! I mean its a total stitch up... Oscar says so.
     
  7. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2013
    Messages:
    5,714
    Likes Received:
    5,735
    No proof of track marks -
    This content is protected

    SMRTL lab director stating findings were consistent with contaminated meat -
    This content is protected

    This content is protected

    This content is protected

    NSAC giving Canelo a lenient sentence for FULLY cooperating -
    This content is protected


    Hair follicle test passed -
    This content is protected


    Clenelo is the DIRTIEST fighter in the sport.
     
  8. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2012
    Messages:
    12,195
    Likes Received:
    8,408
    All I'm getting at is, just because he was on Vada doesn't automatically mean he was clean for the first fight. Just being signed up to Vada 24/7 doesn't mean he "was" tested, just that they could randomly test him whenever.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2018
    kriszhao and bandeedo like this.
  9. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2013
    Messages:
    14,883
    Likes Received:
    10,944
    You forgot to mention he was on drugs isal.
     
    Bustajay, stormy and lewis gassed like this.
  10. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2014
    Messages:
    16,181
    Likes Received:
    13,225
    This is exactly what I think. If that's the case it's an interesting move that could make or break that fight for Canelo. Golovkin is a very, very strong guy and if he does get bullied in there it isn't a good look to a judge or even a ref that may look to step in early.

    On the flip side, fast counters (and more of them) DO look good to a judge, even if they aren't wobbling the other fighter.

    And on the third side, it does add fuel to the whole drug failure thing. Fail a test and then suddenly become less bulky, it adds suspicion. Doesn't make him any more guilty though, of course.
     
    JordanK2406 and kirk like this.
  11. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2016
    Messages:
    15,263
    Likes Received:
    10,269
    Teddy Atlas been in and around the sport for fourty years said he thinks it’s PEDs as the smaller man was actually the bigger man last time.
     
    Bustajay, kriszhao and Liquorice like this.
  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    71,792
    Likes Received:
    29,564
    Nice post Paddy.

    I agree, it will be very interesting to see how this move plays out. On one hand, it could help his stamina and workrate, both which will help him win rounds, on the other hand, it could mean he gets bullied a bit more, which perhaps means he loses more rounds. Or, maybe it wont do anything and we will see exactly the same fight play out as before :lol:

    It definitely adds fuel to the PED discussion. Anyone wanting to deny that is just cheerleading, imo. But I think many people, myself included, said that he had too much muscle and was too big in the first fight, and that his workrate and stamina were big reasons he came up short in the first fight. Im sure him and his team know that as well.... and if so, it makes sense that they would come in trimmer and with those weak spots being the focus this time.
     
  13. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2016
    Messages:
    15,263
    Likes Received:
    10,269
    Isal clearly not familiar with the Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones stories,two of the most tested athletes ever who both never failed a test lol
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2010
    Messages:
    41,973
    Likes Received:
    4,032
    less mass, more gass.
     
  15. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2010
    Messages:
    14,991
    Likes Received:
    12,382
    So we'll ignore those injection marks on his abdomen then?
     
    kriszhao likes this.