Why has Canelo deflated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Liquorice, Sep 12, 2018.


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  1. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A simple restraining order on livestock would have sufficed
     
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  2. boxfan99

    boxfan99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come on guys Cleanelo is and has always been clean, he just loves his beef can't blame the guy
     
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  3. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Second only to Thurman for inactivity
     
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  4. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    No conspiracy, it's true that just because you're signed up for VADA, does not mean they test you. It just means 24/7 they can show up at any time to test you.
     
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  5. IsaL

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    Right.. You seem to be suggesting Canelo wasn't tested, or am I mistaking?
     
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  6. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes it's a total conundrum why this multi millionaire native of Mexico (a nation who's beef is widely known to be chewing the good stuff!) who employs dieticians, nutritionists & chefs & whose occupation requires stringent, organised & regimented food intake would consume the bovine equivalent of Mr Olympia! Being a Mexican, from Mexico, speaking the lingo n all that, u know, he must not have known.. That & the fact that he had a neck like Tyson & track marks more prominent than Kalle Sauerlands Friday night escort! I mean its a total stitch up... Oscar says so.
     
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  7. kiwi_boxer

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    No proof of track marks -
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    SMRTL lab director stating findings were consistent with contaminated meat -
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    NSAC giving Canelo a lenient sentence for FULLY cooperating -
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    Clenelo is the DIRTIEST fighter in the sport.
     
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  8. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    All I'm getting at is, just because he was on Vada doesn't automatically mean he was clean for the first fight. Just being signed up to Vada 24/7 doesn't mean he "was" tested, just that they could randomly test him whenever.
     
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  9. gmurphy

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    You forgot to mention he was on drugs isal.
     
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  10. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    This is exactly what I think. If that's the case it's an interesting move that could make or break that fight for Canelo. Golovkin is a very, very strong guy and if he does get bullied in there it isn't a good look to a judge or even a ref that may look to step in early.

    On the flip side, fast counters (and more of them) DO look good to a judge, even if they aren't wobbling the other fighter.

    And on the third side, it does add fuel to the whole drug failure thing. Fail a test and then suddenly become less bulky, it adds suspicion. Doesn't make him any more guilty though, of course.
     
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  11. Angler Andrew

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    Teddy Atlas been in and around the sport for fourty years said he thinks it’s PEDs as the smaller man was actually the bigger man last time.
     
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  12. kirk

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    Nice post Paddy.

    I agree, it will be very interesting to see how this move plays out. On one hand, it could help his stamina and workrate, both which will help him win rounds, on the other hand, it could mean he gets bullied a bit more, which perhaps means he loses more rounds. Or, maybe it wont do anything and we will see exactly the same fight play out as before :lol:

    It definitely adds fuel to the PED discussion. Anyone wanting to deny that is just cheerleading, imo. But I think many people, myself included, said that he had too much muscle and was too big in the first fight, and that his workrate and stamina were big reasons he came up short in the first fight. Im sure him and his team know that as well.... and if so, it makes sense that they would come in trimmer and with those weak spots being the focus this time.
     
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  13. Angler Andrew

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    Isal clearly not familiar with the Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones stories,two of the most tested athletes ever who both never failed a test lol
     
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  14. HerolGee

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    less mass, more gass.
     
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  15. UniversalPart

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    So we'll ignore those injection marks on his abdomen then?
     
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