Why I can't accept drugs in boxing

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  1. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There is a recent scientific study released on the mentality of cheating. That once a person cheats and wins, it's like a drug and they become addicted to cheating. Sometimes, whole cultures are built like that where cheating is a cultural addiction. Drugs are just one element of that psychological dysfunction.
     
  2. Absolutely!

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    Isn't that just levelling up the playing field for those athletes who weren't born with the same natural gifts as those that were? Why should one individual benefit from chance at the expense of another?
     
  3. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The problem is fighters really are cheating across the board. People are in denial.

    Volunteering in yearly VADA testing during off-season is BS. VADA doesn't have to report to anybody but the person who contracted them. "Oh look I'm clean between fights." Nobody cares. Show me a contract where VADA can publicly post any positive tests off-fight. The fighter just has to say, I'm taking that due to an injury.

    You don't take PEDs until you're training. Floyd knows what he can get away with under USADA. Ward knows what he can get away with under VADA. (I only use those names because I'm a known fan of both. You can substitute those names with GGG, Kovalev, Pacquiao, Wlad, Marquez ...).

    Fighters who know they can pass VADA will push VADA. Fighters who know they can pass USADA will push USADA. Pacquiao rejected VADA against Bradley until Pac could test under VADA in Macao where there is no athletic comission. Pac even rejected additional testing against Marquez IV. Come on. (singling out Pac here because his fans like to accuse everyone else of cheating drawing no suspicion on Pac)

    Do you know how high the tolerance levels are for positively identifying variants of PEDs? They're ridiculously high. Passing a test just means you stayed below tolerance levels set by the testing agencies. The levels have to be high enough to prove beyond a doubt in court the guy was using it. Fighters have the advantage yet again.

    Moral of the story: Who the F isn't on something?
     
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  4. There Will Be Blood

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    You're dumb as hell. VADA has been catching people left and right. VADA is the only drug testing agency works. VADA reports all findings to the sanctioning bodies/promotors.
     
  5. FuMaster

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    So you say. USADA has caught way more cheats. You just have a myopic view of the world that fits your agenda. There is no sanctioning body in Macao. Where else has your idol tested VADA?

    I expected a response from Pac fan because most of you are in flat out denial.
     
  6. jarama

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    Are all fights tested now
    Will Haye and Bellew be getting tested
     
  7. kirk

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    Man.... good post.... even if I think its unrealistically idealistic.